Scottish Results

[al**bear]

Clackmannanshire says -- NO

Orkney says ---------------- NO

Shetland says -------------  NO

Western Isles -------------   NO  (one of the Yes camps bankers)

These are only small % of overall vote, but going well

Turn out very High

YES camp looking very glum all across the Country

Alex Salmons local area have cancelled a 'Victory party'

He has not appeared at the  Aberdeenshire count, even though He was meant to turn up.

[al**bear]

One the videos they claim as proof -

but it isn't

because this the original check to discard any obvious 'spoiled papers' and open ballot papers to have them flat for counting - YES Dundee even had to come on Twitter & Facebook to tell their supporters it was not fraud, during the actual count

more 'proof'

another video shows election workers feeding (through a slot) a large  clear bin with sheets of paper - - this was supposed to be ballots, trouble is, it was the A4 sized sheets that had all the names of the voters roll, the ones at the polling station that they check your name and address on - these must be saved for future reference

[baybizz]

A Pandora's Box has been opened.... you ain't seen nothing yet....

www.community.ebay.com.au/Cheap-Scotch-And-A-New-Flag/1516185#M387599

[sir_arthur_strebe-grebling]

At least the question of the currency has been settled ... Scotland definitely gets to keep the Poundland!

[papko]

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Will he now resign (again) from the SNP in a fit of pique and high dudgeon, and retire to his bunker on some remote island in the Outer Hebrides, never to be seen again ?

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 remote island ?

 St Helena would be appropriate ,   not however Elba   ( he might land next year with his body guard , and George Osborne will depatch the Horse Guards to apprehend him , ,,,, with what result ? ) 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdZIOP6N4NU

[blackburn_stevie]

It's all been a bit higgle-d-piggledy from where I'm standing.

Nobody I've spoken to has been able to answer the question. In fact, I still don't know the answer.

Now, I'm a Brit so it doesn't really bother me but my wife is Jockanese and so are all her relatives.

The thing is this. We know that there were 32 areas in the resulting bits and bobs ranging from Glasgow to tiny islands with 250 occupants.

But, the only choice was either a YES vote for if you wanted to split from British rule or a NO vote if you wanted to stay and be  tied to British rule. Either way, it didn't take much thinking about.

But how did you know who won?

I mean was it the first 17 results passed the page with either a YES or a NO vote. Or maybe was it maybe the total number of votes cast  in each area lie maybe 1,264,583 YES votes and 1,475,255 NOs cat altogether so the NAYS had it altogether.

Somebody give us a clue.

Cheerd,

Steve/ 

[evoman3957]

As far as I know, it was broken down into it's electoral constituencies and instead of each one voting for a MP / Government ( as they normally would do ) this time it was for a straight Yes / No choice. By doing it this way, they could then verify who lived / worked in the various areas and who resided in various dwellings; that were eligible to vote.

[tommy.irene]

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@blackburn_stevie wrote:

It's all been a bit higgle-d-piggledy from where I'm standing.

Nobody I've spoken to has been able to answer the question. In fact, I still don't know the answer.

Now, I'm a Brit so it doesn't really bother me but my wife is Jockanese and so are all her relatives.

The thing is this. We know that there were 32 areas in the resulting bits and bobs ranging from Glasgow to tiny islands with 250 occupants.

But, the only choice was either a YES vote for if you wanted to split from British rule or a NO vote if you wanted to stay and be  tied to British rule. Either way, it didn't take much thinking about.

But how did you know who won?

I mean was it the first 17 results passed the page with either a YES or a NO vote. Or maybe was it maybe the total number of votes cast  in each area lie maybe 1,264,583 YES votes and 1,475,255 NOs cat altogether so the NAYS had it altogether.

Somebody give us a clue.

Cheerd,

Steve/ 

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.. results accumulative total: Yes 1,617,989 (44.7%), No 2,001,926 (55.3%).

..http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/voting-latest.1411032189

[ronnybabes]

The Queen was in Glasgow when  she formally met Alex Salmond, Scotland's First Minister.  

EIIR:  "How nice to see you Mr. Salmond."

 AS:  "Nice to see you Your Majesty.  Now, what are we going to call Scotland when we win Independence?  

EIIR:  "Oh dear, one hasn't considered that yet!"    

AS:   "How about calling it a 'Kingdom' and then I will be King?  

EIIR:  "Oh Dear!  One doesn't think that is appropriate."    

AS:  "How about 'Empire' then I can  be an Emperor?

 EIIR: "Dear!  In one's dreams!"    

AS:  "All right!   So how about calling it a 'Principality' and then I can be a Prince?"  

EIIR:  "Quite Near, Mr. Salmond!   --  I think  we will let it remain a 'country' and you can carry on as you are."

[al**bear]

[evoman3957]

Rob(ber) Roy ?

[cee-dee]

I dunno about Robber Roy but Salmond is claiming "We woz robbed"!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-29296282

[electric*mayhem*band]

"Well he would say that, wouldn't he" ?

(Mandy Rice-Davies - 1963).

[electric*mayhem*band]

The slippery one has just been on the BBC's 'Sunday Politics' McB - is that a Banksy ? - whinging and whining about how he was robbed, and blaming everyone from Harry Lauder to the Krankies.

However, he did leave us with a couple of lines from an old Jacobean poem:

'So pause false wigs, in the midst o' yer glee, You've not seen the last of my bonnets and me.' 

[tommy.irene]

http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Scotland---not-enough-Bravehearts-when-the-moment-came.html?section...

[baybizz]

>> Far from being 'settled', the future of these islands now hangs in the balance - with the British constitution thrown up in the air, and a visceral struggle under way to pick up the pieces.

>> It is possible to see a descent into a recriminatory and poisonous mess, which leaves Scotland feeling betrayed, and the rest of the UK aggrieved.

>> The odds on the latter being the outcome have gone up in the hours since the referendum result. The cosy consensus between the leaders of the UK-wide parties,  when they united to beseech Scots not to go, has already been shattered over the "English question".

>> Many Conservative MPs are furious about how much was conceded to Scotland during the climactic days of the referendum campaign.

>> The Scottish question and English question are now entangled. Far from the referendum settling the shape of the Union, there is a hot and fierce after-battle between the parties, and within them, about the future governance of these islands.

>> This struggle will be visceral, because we are not talking about a bit of light constitutional tweaking.

>> Being seen to renege on the pledge to Scotland would be the surest way to pave the way for another independence referendum - and rather sooner than a generation away.

>> Compared with what has been promised to Scotland, what is offered to England looks like feeble tinkering.

>> The population of Yorkshire is much the same size as that of Scotland, and its economy is double the size of that of Wales.

>>  So - is anyone proposing to give that great county of Yorkshire control over all of its income tax? Even just a little bit of its income tax?  No - they're not. They are not even proposing to give English local government full control of all its council tax and business rates...

>> The British constitution has been thrown up in the air. No one is at all sure, the principal actors included, where or when all the pieces are going to land.

>> The Scots voted to give the Union a future. What we've yet to find out is what sort of future -  one renewed, or one poisoned - one long, or one short. Until we know that, we can't trust anyone who claims the Union is safe for "a generation"...

www.theguardian.com/scotland-referendum-is-the-union-secure-for-a-generation

[al**bear]

still stuns Me to listen to the NATS and Media pundits tell one and all why, NO voters voted NO

They did not or Do they know even now

EMBs

There are so many now, I think there must be an online graphic do da (technical term), that you must be able to make your own

[lambsy_uk]

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@**caution**opinion_ahead wrote:

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@marg*e wrote:

Not all over yet, the inquest will go on for days/weeks.

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Ain't that the truth. 

Cameron whittering on about it being settled for a generation.  WTH!  Is he opening the door for another one in 20-25 yrs time?

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Actually he said it was settled "perhaps for a lifetime".

[al**bear]

Nearly every claim made by the YES side have claimed about INDY POLL -- BUSTED

YouGov  results dissected

THE elderly did not rob the young of an independent Scotland, according to YouGov's final poll of how Scotland voted in the independence referendum.

Their study of 3,188 voters showed that 51 per cent of those aged between 16 and 24 voted No. It also revealed that more than one in five SNP supporters turned their backs on independence.

The breakdown has come from YouGov's referendum night poll that predicted a No win with 54 per cent of the vote. Some 55.3 per cent voted against independence in the official vote.

A post-referendum poll of 2,000 conducted by Lord Ashcroft said that 71 per cent of 16-17-year-olds and 48 per cent of 18 to 24-year-olds voted Yes giving ammunition to Yes supporters that the young were being deprived of an independent Scotland by their older peers.

However, only 14 people in that age group responded to the survey.

The YouGov poll found:

l Only eight per cent of Tory voters supported independence while 27 per cent of Labour supporters and 29 per cent of Liberal Democrats said Yes.

l Out of five age groups only the 25-39-year-olds supported a Yes with 55 per cent backing independence.

l The biggest supporters of No were voters over 65, with two in every three preferring to stay within the United Kingdom.

l Some 55 per cent of 60-65-year-olds and 53 per cent of 40-59-year-olds backed Better Together.

l A total of 74 per cent of those voters who were born elsewhere in the UK voted No. Some 51 per cent of Scots-born voters supported independence.

The poll also found twice as many voters said Yes campaign activists at polling stations were acting unreasonably, at six per cent, to No's three per cent.

The decision to allow the 16 and 17-year-olds to have the vote in the referendum was hailed by outgoing First Minister Alex Salmond in his concession speech. He declared the involvement of Scotland's youngest voters in the referendum a "resounding success".

[baybizz]

Link to the above article (in a Scottish newspaper) - plus some interesting comments:

www.heraldscotland.com/referendum-survey-slender-majority-young-people-voted-no