23-03-2020 12:07 PM - edited 23-03-2020 12:08 PM
Hmm not sure how this would work. Just had a phone call from the builders saying materials being delivered tomorrow and i will need to sign for them...and asked them IF we went into total lockdown say tomorrow will they still come on Wednesday?..... he said YES. Would they even be allowed to?
25-03-2020 10:32 AM
I don't see anything strange in the particular countries affected. Switzerland borders Italy, which has a serious outbreak. People have been trading, going on holiday, business trips etc.
The truth is, Mother Nature has put us on the Naughty Step!
25-03-2020 10:40 AM
The one thing that this virus proves is that globalisation is not necessarily a good thing! For many years there have been arguments about migrants travelling through Europe, many to get to the UK - as often suggested for our benefits and NHS. We may not have any of that to give our own people soon!
Where are the main Covid 19 hotspots in Europe?
Italy where they have lots of migrant issues coming over their Northern/Eastern borders.
Germany where they welcomed migrants freely much to the annoyance of their own people.
France where migrants have travelled up through to Paris and the ports to the UK.
Spain where migrants enter from the North African Continent.
I also noted there were less cases in Portugal - which is not a crossing point through Europe.
No matter what Nationality - people moving around the world freely is not a good thing - especially Now!
I am VERY concerned about this - its become serious beyond belief in a very short space of time. If you want me to be honest... I don't think they can stop this, its totally out of control. UNSTOPPABLE
If it is true that the virus is still alive on surfaces on the Diamond Pricess 17 days later that means 14 day lockdowns are a waste of time! I also heard that the virus is popping up again in Wuhan as it returns to 'normality' - could be explained by being alive on surfaces 17 days later??
My husband has since day one said this is something to do with germ warfare - gone wrong or maybe right for those responsible? Who knows and who knows who is responsible!
25-03-2020 11:11 AM - edited 25-03-2020 11:12 AM
Breaking News.....Prince Charles has tested positive and has a mild case of Coronavirus
On the topic of borders,...i do think that we should shut ours at the minute.
25-03-2020 11:42 AM
25-03-2020 11:43 AM
The spread of the virus is obviously due to international travel. ALL travel should have been stopped a while back.
UTCYA showed the flight radar picture and a few minutes before seeing that I'd been to the front door and looked out and there's two airliners steaming across the sky, they're STILL at it.
It's not due to germ warfare, it's due to those mucky people who keep all sorts of different animals and birds in squalid conditions before they're killed for eating. There's another virus, hantavirus which is "floating about" in those countries that allow such appalling "meat markets" to continue. There was a photo yesterday showing cooked dogs hanging up and another showed a dog's head (complete with fur) in a bowl ready to be cooked!!!! Did I mention the frogs and snakes? YUK.
It's life Jim, but not as WE know it.
Live long and prosper.
25-03-2020 11:59 AM
25-03-2020 4:35 PM
Ok lets clear this up....the video you probably saw Rudy was uploaded to the Wolves official twitter and the various social medias of Wolves.
This video was a general message to everyone reminding them to stay at home and be safe. As the club doctor of Wolves he can have a huge influence on peoples actions, as well as the club doctor - many players have came out with short messages reminding everyone to follow the general protocol. There is no mention at all by him of hotspot and he also mentions in the video he does not use social media. These general messages are being posted daily by the goverment and all big organisations all over the UK.
25-03-2020 5:03 PM
Don't think I'd read too much into it Glyn - the others have only made comments that Wolverhampton (area) is an hotspot - which it is. Not sure what relevance that has
... oh and by the way we (my husband and myself) are Wolves Season Ticket holders. Other posters have not picked up on the fact that Fosun, Wolves Chinese owners sent in a lorry load of masks and protective clothing to Wolverhampton to help in the fight. ...As they have also done all over the world!
COYW - you know what I mean 'Si Senor'!
25-03-2020 5:05 PM
I have private messaged you 🙂
25-03-2020 5:11 PM
Dingles Ay We LOL
25-03-2020 5:52 PM
Was BBC Midlands Today "Wolverhampton has been identified as a Coronavirus Hot Spot. @Wolves would like everyone to listen here to their Club Doctor."
27-03-2020 11:52 AM
We agree that it is down to travel/migration - hard to dispute it really, things may change radically if we survive this.
However can I just say that some of your other 'assumptions' are wrong. I have visited China - and actually been to Wuhan, but it was around 1995ish. We went on a 3 week tour of China, there were only cars in Shanghai, no where else. Shanghai was the 'IN' place, the only place we saw 20th century Shops just starting to open up. You are correct in saying hygeine was a second thought to the Chinese - and strangely everyone on the tour went down with 'Beijing Flu' - which was a mild cold which came and went very quickly. It was an escorted tour - the only way you could enter China in those days.
We travelled on the Grand Canal, the Yangtse river and by coach. Usually into and out of museums and cities arriving back at an hotel very late and departing very early. It restricted what you could see and designed to make it near impossible to leave the tour and go elsewhere. But we wanted to see the people and the everyday life on the streets.
We were off to a museum to see a 900 year old man who'd fell into a tar pit - my husband decided it was not for him, so he asked how long we'd be here. 'A couple of hours' the guide said - so off we went (much to the annoyance of the Chinese guide who went into panic mode) up the street. Never seen anything like it, the whole street stopped, they'd never seen a westerner and everyone just stared at us - they came to their windows to look. It was an eyeopener!! There was a family squatting with a huge fish scraping away the scales,next to them a pile of rubbish. At the end of the street was a small market, a fish stall with all the fish laid out on the floor. Next to this stall was the rat catcher with his rat poisons. Obviously in order to show they worked he had a dead rat - either end of his stall, next to the fish stall !
We stayed in Hotels which were all 4-5 Star hotels - that was where several young lads on the tour got their food posioning! Had to rejoin the tour 3 days later as they were so ill.
We eat at many Chinese restaurants which I might have normally given a wide berth - without any issue. My husband did turn his nose up at the fried chicken claws (I mean claws!) but otherwise everything was good!
As for the markets - they were very busy and the ones I saw reasonably clean - less rubbish lying around, yes they eat snakes (large tanks full of them alive), did not see any other exotic animals (not saying they were not there). Saw lots of fish and we even purchased a snake which the chef prepared for us at the Hotel. Was not overly keen on it, it tasted of aniseed.
What I dispute is your comments about what people eat, the whole world has different tastes and China is no different. I question some of these statements about bats, pangolins and orther exotics. It does happen, but not quite as much as the media would like to sensationalise it does. Neither are the conditions they are kept in any worse than the chickens at European battery farms - and I speak with experience!
I would have an abhorrence to eating dog - but remember we live in a society that is trying to push you to eat insects. We eat mussels, oysters (double yuk!), horse meat (not as good as beef), cows tongue, black pudding, haggis, guinea pig (no thank you), frogs legs (Superb), snails (better than whelks) and even hedgehog - was a delicacy in this country for gypsies as my mom once told me. These are just a few of the delicacies I knew of, but you like googling, so check out the worlds delicasies and you'll see its not just in China, even we have a few that many of us would turn our noses up at! Nose - I think that comes jellied as well!