Dossier on Establishment Peadophiles is missing

[al**bear]

A dossier detailing explosive claims of sex abuse by paedophiles within Westminster has gone missing.

Given to Home Secretary Leon Brittan in 1983, the files allegedly exposed a vile network at Parliament and Whitehall.

But there is no record of any subsequent criminal inquiry and the Home Office yesterday admitted the dossier is either lost or destroyed.

Lord Brittan, 74, is now facing questions over his handling of the document and inconsistencies in his account of what he did with it.

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BTW the majority of a Dossier on  child sexual abuse in N Wales and the NW of England by VIPs, including Police and local Politicians, which was compiled. Has also vanished into the ether, what is left, is only the bare bones of another explosive document.

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MUST BE GOOD TO HAVE FRIENDS IN HIGH PLACES

Old Celebs it seems aren't that 'LUCKY'

[joe_bloggs*]

Allegations of sex crimes by leading members of the establishment – including paedophilia – are being kept secret from the public until at least the year 2056.

Here’s an example. Documents relating to allegations against a ‘peer of the realm‘ will not be released until at least the year 2043:

And why has the government decided to keep these documents secret until at least the year 2056:

Could the Diplomatic Service employee Colin Peters mentioned above be the same Diplomatic Service employee Colin Peters who was later jailed for sexually abusing children and is linked to the current Operation Fernbridge police investigation into allegations of child sexual abu...?

http://tompride.wordpress.com/

[fallen-archie]

Can I ask if we don't have a chairperson from the so called establishment which for obvious reasons means we cannot have a chairperson from a position effectively a commoner then do we need to go overseas. Kim il Jung comes to mind.

[astrologica]

There was an item on BBC the other day, and they were discussing this problem. One person (I don't know his name) actually mentioned that Leon Brittan was not only guilty of disposing of the dossier that was handed to him about this child abuse, but was actually suspected of being a child abuser at that time. They did go to great lengths to say that this was not true, and that he was not an abuser. That was the first time I had seen that allegation aired on TV, although it is often seen on the internet. Maybe they are stretching things out until he pops his clogs.

[joe_bloggs*]

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/nov/02/theresa-may-child-abuse-report-inquiry-home-office

Some interesting readers comments under the article:

"Just 2 years ago, if you told people there was widespread sexual abuse of children by celebrities and politicians, people would have called you a conspiracy theorist.

Just 2 years ago, if you told people that the governments of the West were carrying out mass surveillance on the internet and saving all your emails and other online data, people would have called you a conspiracy theorist.

But now that the conspiracy has come to light, and it's fairly clear that this is a conspiracy to protect pedophiles from justice, people still act like there are no conspiracies, no people pulling strings behind the scenes.

Don't act like the information we have now is everything that we deserve to know. There is a lot more going on that we need to find out about. Just don't demonise the people that dare to question the status quo, and don't use the term conspiracy as a derogatory term.

Obviously there is a lot of absolute nonsense in the websites that propagate conspiracy theories. But among the delusions and outright lies, there are some truths. Let this case remind everyone that we do not know the extent of the heinous crimes committed by those in power, elected and unelected.

And let's see more real investigative journalism uncover this utterly wretched lie, that we live in a peaceful, enlightened age. The people of the world deserve more than to be run by child abusers and a capitalist system that benefits only the rich."

As MP Michael Meacher says:

"It is all reminiscent of Blair’s appointment of Lord Hutton to do the whitewash job he did on the invasion of Iraq and its aftermath.   He and Mandelson and a small closed group of advisers, possibly including Heywood, sought around for someone who they hoped would command public credibility, but above all who would deliver a ‘sound’ judgement – Whitehallese for letting all the main culprits off the hook.   The Woolf episode displays exactly the same characteristics.   The Establishment never learns, because it thinks it can get away with it."

http://www.michaelmeacher.info/weblog/2014/11/woolfs-enforced-resignation-exposes-establishment-home...

[fallen-archie]

Having admitted that the internet is full of conspiracy theories then it is fair to question some of the more outrageous claims being made right now. Yes there are questions to answer regarding child abuse, we can talk about that involving the so called establishment but it is no better among other sections of our community as was highlighted in a report by a labour MP this week, and a shocking report it was too. However reluctance to mention it is to protect community relations in the hope that the situation is not as widespread as some claim. Similarly if there is a conspiracy within the establishment it must be uncovered and prosecuted, the problem is as ever the activists want to tar all with the same brush and that is fundamentally wrong.

[al**bear]

The Mirror starts to put names to allegations of VIP peado ring

MI6 chief and shamed diplomat rap*d me' claims alleged victim of VIP paedophile abuse ring

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mi6-chief-shamed-diplomat-raped-4596308

[neil-the-hippie]

Jimmy Savile is at the heart of all this.

He was the Fixer for Establishment figures in ther interests.

How else could he have accumulated such vast wealth and avoid prosecution for over fifty years and die a free man?

He had the dirt on them all and took their secrets to the grave. In exchange they made sure that he could act with impunity.

So close to the political class he spent every Christmas with Mrs Thatcher at Chequers.

So close to the Royal Family that he was the go between for Charles and Diana during their divorce.

David Icke outed Savile and Ted Heath as paedophiles in 1994, with the childrens home on Jersey as a meeting place, Heath sailing to Jersey in his yacht  in the late 60s/ early 70s.

Savile denied ever having been to Jersey, but a photo of him at the childrens home was passed the The Sun.

Savile successfully made an application to the High Court for a super injunction forbidding the Sun not only from publishing the photo-but even mentioning it's existance.

Funny that.

[al**bear]

So Yesterdays Inquiry into what happened inside the Home Office to files relating to Child abuse, found no evidence of cover up - It did NOT as Cameron is saying clear officials of wrongdoings

Now the main Inquiry has lost 2 People that were meant to lead them, due to links to Establishment -- So who led yesterdays inquiry, a certain Peter Wanless one of the heads of the NSPCC - but what is Peters Job history - well he was a long time senior Civil Servant, who in His various Positions worked very closely with - Yes the very same Home Office. 

Nice to see Theresa May keeping it all 'in House'

[al**bear]

Former Home Secretary Leon Brittan told an MP police would not always be given details by Customs staff of anyone being sent obscene material.

He said in a letter to Geoffrey Dickens it depended on whether an offence had been established and mere postal receipt of indecent articles was not sufficient evidence.

Lord Brittan was responding to a whistleblower’s concerns raised by the MP that intercepted paedophile material had been destroyed without any proper investigation.

The then Home Secretary wrote: “I do not think Customs should supply to the police names and addresses of everyone receiving obscene or indecent articles, regardless of whether an offence has been established.”

He added it was usual practice for border officials to seize intercepted abusive images of children without informing the police.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/leon-brittan-told-mp-police-4618439

[al**bear]

A whistleblower who claimed Cabinet ministers enjoyed sex parties with rent boys is to be quizzed by police investigating the Westminster abuse scandal.

Former Tory activist Anthony Gilberthorpe says he told Margaret Thatcher 25 years ago about what he had witnessed and gave her names.

The Sunday Mirror revealed in July how he claimed to have seen top Tories enjoying sex with boys at drug-fuelled parties.

He claimed to have supplied youngsters as young as 15 for MPs during conferences at Blackpool and Brighton in the 1980s.

Mr Gilberthorpe said one who attended a sex party is a serving minister and that others included Thatcher Education Secretary Keith Joseph, former Attorney General Michael Havers and top Tory Rhodes Boyson.

Mr Gilberthorpe’s claims over Joseph and Boyson were supported by a paedophile dossier compiled by Labour peer Barbara Castle.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/westminster-child-sex-scandal-cops-4595880

[al**bear]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/westminster-child-abuse-gang-linked-to-boys-murder-986245...

Detectives investigating allegations of an organised paedophile ring involving former government ministers and senior police officers are examining links to a possible murder, Scotland Yard confirmed today.

The Met said detectives from its Operation Fairbank historic child abuse investigation command were now working with homicide officers in a new investigation called Operation Midland.

The Independent understands the victim is a boy and the person alleged to be responsible for his death in the 1980s is not a politician.

Scotland Yard said in a statement: “Based on our current knowledge, this is the first time that this specific information has been passed to the Met. At this early stage, with much work still to do, it is not appropriate to issue appeals or reveal more information.”

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That seems strange (underlined) - because I mentioned these murders on the Round Table years ago, this is NOT new News

Wonder what the next exclusive will be - How about,

'Leading European Politicians, Officials, Wealthy Businessmen and VIPs  flew in from Europe to private landing-strips around London to take part in extreme 'Rough Trade sessions' involving children of all ages , with No questions asked and any consequence's, made to 'vanish'

which btw is another old story

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The rumour has always been that British Security services, recorded, filmed and documented these and the British culprits crimes. Then used the evidence to exert influence oover the perpetrators.

[al**bear]

'I watched Tory MP MURDER a boy during depraved Westminster VIP paedophile party'

A victim of the Westminster paedophile abuse scandal has claimed he saw a Conservative MP murder a young boy during a depraved sex party.

And the Sunday People can reveal that detectives are investigating THREE murders allegedly linked to a network of VIP perverts.

The horrifying account comes days after Scotland Yard confirmed they have launched a murder probe ­connected to allegations of sex abuse from the 1970s and 80s.

Today the Sunday People and Exaro investigations agency expose the full extent of shocking events the witness, known as Nick, has described to the Metropolitan Police paedophile unit.

Nick claims the first death was of a boy aged ten or 11 who was ­deliberately run down by a car.

Another chilling allegation is that he was in the same room in the 1980s when a 12-year-old boy was strangled by a Tory MP.

Nick said: “I watched while that happened. I am not sure how I got out of that. Whether I will ever know why I survived, I am not sure.”

Eighteen months later, he claims a third boy was killed by two unknown men in front of another MP.

Nick told of his terror as he and the strangling victim were driven to an orgy

[al**bear]

People are now relating how William Hague and Edwina Currie in 1996 were naming names to friends in private, of Tory MPs and others involved in abuse in the 70s/80s, this was after Hague launched the Waterhouse Inquiry into child abuse of kids in care in N Wales

Is this why Hague is stepping down ? 

He especially restricted Waterhouse to confine his report into abuse that happened inside the care homes - even though loads of victims reported to have been taken to locations in the area and even into the North West of England to be abused by people who they recognised from the papers and politics.

[al**bear]

Theresa May’s child sexual abuse inquiry faces new storm

Two members of Theresa May’s panel inquiring into child sex abuse are facing calls to resign after being accused of sending threatening or insulting emails to victims who had criticised the inquiry.

Lawyers for one abuse survivor have written to the home secretary to complain of a string ofunsolicited communications, including an allegedly threatening email sent two days before an official meeting that both panellists and an abuse survivor were due to attend.

The victim, who is on medication for post-traumatic stress disorder, was left too anxious to attend the “listening meeting” in November. The development will be a huge embarrassment to May, who has already seen two chairs to the inquiry stand down since it was launched in July, both over conflicts of interest. A source close to the inquiry’s secretariat said the emails should not have been sent, leaving the fate of the panel members in doubt.

The inquiry has been set up to consider whether, and the extent to which, public bodies and other non-state institutions have taken seriously their duty of care to protect children from sexual abuse in England and Wales from 1970 to the present day.

At a meeting on Friday between government officials and victims of abuse, survivors were told by the Home Office’s director of safeguarding that the allegations against panel members were being examined by an unnamed QC. Survivors told officials they had “lost all confidence” in the inquiry as it was currently constituted.

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/dec/06/theresa-may-child-sexual-abuse-inquiry-panel-accused-...

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VIP paedophiles inquiry: Child abuse survivors want timescale pushed back to the 1950s

Child abuse survivors want the timescale of the inquiry into VIP paedophiles pushed back to the 1950s to avoid a whitewash.

Groups representing the abused also want a dedicated police unit to examine evidence uncovered during the probe to ensure no powerful culprits escape justice.

The calls came at a meeting earlier this week and one survivor, who did not wish to be named, said: “At the moment, the inquiry is ignoring the abuses that went on in the 1950s and 1960s.

“Its investigation is due to look at abuse from 1970 onward. There are lots of survivors from before that time. Is their suffering not worth anything?”

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/vip-paedophiles-inquiry-child-abuse-4761744

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[fallen-archie]

Will looking back into the fifties serve any real purpose, We already know that people in positions of responsibility have abused their positions, Priests, teachers of both sex, care home employees, celebrities, the list grows and it does so because some failed to respect their responsibilities and became predators. We also know there was by today's standards widespread physical abuse of women and children, great strides have been made in changing attitudes and making individuals more aware that they are responsible and will be prosecuted.
So my question is why drag up the failures of some octogenarian who may have been responsible for lewd behaviour. I completely agree that this is unacceptable behaviour but do you really think it warrants the kind of pursuit afforded to those responsible for the holocaust.

[cee-dee]

I wonder how long it will be before some bright spark gets in touch with a bright spark lawyer to claim the reason why they were "abused" was because the people abused before them didn't report it allowing the abuser to become bolder and continue so they intend to sue those abused before them because the abuser has now pegged it?

[al**bear]

So the Daily Mirror has finally broken the story (open secret) about Leon Brittan, being present at child abuse parties, If you know where to look, you can find out, 2 ex-police officers, say they have seen pictures of Him at these events.

A few on here, know I have been talking about His involvement for Years

and Labour MP Jim Hood named him as an child abuser under Parliamentary privilege last year.

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Tory grandee Leon Brittan died before he could be ­quizzed over claims he was at parties where children were sexually abused and killed.

The former Home Secretary was named by an alleged victim as being among a group of powerful men who he saw at the luxury Dolphin Square apartments close to Westminster.

The claims, including allegations the VIP paedophile ring murdered three children, are being treated as “credible and true” by Scotland Yard.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/leon-brittan-faced-cop-quiz-5032926

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 A major question for the Police is WHY, after many many years of knowing the allegations, they never questioned Him. Did they know if they waited long enough He was pass away ?

[al**bear]

OH no he's talking about my mate Leon

[fallen-archie]

Will you be posting a full obituary Al?

[malacandran]

All humen men are potentially corrupt, and some women too. But this is just the way we are.

I can't see why we should get too obsessed with it.  At least,  not in Britain.  Let's be thankfull, that none of our British politicians, in the last 100 years, have given orders for mass-executions of millions of people in concentration-camps.

That's much better than what happened in Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia.  So can't we keep a sense of proportion.

Any ruling elite,  is bound to do things which go beyond what most people would do.  Isn't that in the nature of power?