Dave Lee Travis NOT GUILTY

[*.*..lola..*.*]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/dave-lee-travis-trial-verdict-3140440

Let's hope he can put all this behind him now and get on with his life!

[al**bear]

a Not very likable male Scottish MSP

Guilty of 'Historical wife abuse

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2426744/Bill-Walker-Scottish-MP-jailed-decades-abuse-wives-s...

[cee-dee]

Like I said above, Clifford probably did what he was accused of but the only "evidence" was what a group of people said.

Now if you were worth a few bob and a group of people you know/knew made complaints about you using similar "believable" scenarios, how would you defend yourself in the face of a prosecutor making a strong case to convince a jury?

All you could do would be to deny it all and hope the jury believe you.

If you had always been a nice, decent, inoffensive person, they might. If you had always been an arrogant, smooth, manipulative, overconfident even cocky individual and came over as just that in Court, they probably wouldn't believe you whether you were innocent or not.

The Law on evidence needs some revision?

[cee-dee]

I guess this requires no comment?:-

http://news.sky.com/story/1250907/max-clifford-mellor-reacts-to-guilty-verdict

[tommy.irene]

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@cee-dee wrote:

I guess this requires no comment?:-

http://news.sky.com/story/1250907/max-clifford-mellor-reacts-to-guilty-verdict

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I said not many people liked Max..

[rose2008-2008]

Dirty, Scummy, Obnoxious Little Man,,,,,,, LOCK HIM UP. And his daughter came out holding his arm??. Is she silly or what?. 

[electric*mayhem*band]

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@rose2008-2008 wrote:

Dirty, Scummy, Obnoxious Little Man,,,,,,, LOCK HIM UP. And his daughter came out holding his arm??. Is she silly or what?.

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Yes, all of those things you said he was, and I can think of a few more, but that was his daughter by his side. Can't have been easy for her to sit through all the court proceedings. It wasn't her that was facing the jury. His reputation and career has been torn to shreds, and he faces a jail sentence. And rightly so.

But despite all this, you know what they say about blood being thicker than water.

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@tommy.irene wrote:

I said not many people liked Max..

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Yes, you did. Twice I think. Aren't you a clever little 75 year old ?

[tommy.irene]

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@electric*mayhem*band wrote:

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@rose2008-2008 wrote:

Dirty, Scummy, Obnoxious Little Man,,,,,,, LOCK HIM UP. And his daughter came out ho

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@tommy.irene wrote:

I said not many people liked Max..

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Yes, you did. Twice I think. Aren't you a clever little 75 year old ?

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No im a good looking old man.. who believed he was Guilty.

[rose2008-2008]

I expect the others like Rolf Harris will be in court again soon wont they??. I think he had another date coming up. I was shocked to the core about HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

[tommy.irene]

What do you think Max will get today.. I say 2 years..

[cee-dee]

6 years.

[tommy.irene]

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@cee-dee wrote:

6 years.

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I wish.. They might let him off with a slap.. and fine..

[cee-dee]

No, it has to be decided on the sentencing in force when the offences were committed.

[rose2008-2008]

3 Years,,,,not enough.

[tommy.irene]

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@cee-dee wrote:

No, it has to be decided on the sentencing in force when the offences were committed.

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Legal experts say Clifford faces at least two years in jail, as the judge will have to use guidelines in force when the offences were committed in the 1970s and 1980s.

If the offences had been committed in the last decade, he could have been given a life sentence because two of the guilty verdicts on a 15-year-old female victim involved serious sex crimes.

[cee-dee]

***WOW*** 8 YEARS***

Quick update, he's been told he'll serve at least half of that.

[tommy.irene]

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@cee-dee wrote:

***WOW*** 8 YEARS***

Quick update, he's been told he'll serve at least half of that.

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But it will be on his own..they dont like men who mess with 15 yearold girls..   http://news.sky.com/story/1253963/clifford-jailed-for-eight-years-for-sex-crimes

[tommy.irene]

Sky nick pisa@NickPisa

#Clifford judge says he found footage of publicist mimicking @TomSkyNews extraordinary & indication show no remorse..

[rose2008-2008]

Has he got 8???.. Plenty of time to perfect his bending over skills,,,see how he likes it!!!. Dropped the soap Clifford??, oh dear!!.

[angelah1847]

Well if anyone wants to reads what the judge said today, here it is, there is some graphic detail.........

http://www.judiciary.gov.uk/Resources/JCO/Documents/Judgments/sentencing-remarks-hhj-leonard-r-v-cli...

He deserves every day inside and more IMHO....

[saasher2012]

It's a pity someone didn't have the foresight to bite down hard, justice would really have been meted out then,