16-01-2015 4:38 PM - edited 16-01-2015 4:40 PM
The muslim mayor of Rotterdam response to the attack on Charlie Hebdo
and other terrorist attacks by muslim extremists.
03-02-2015 8:14 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-31121160
It's life Jim, but not as WE know it.
Live long and prosper.
04-02-2015 2:41 AM
Totally uncalled for and cruel ,yet again.Whoever they are and whatever they believe ,who wants to live with or near these people.As allies or foes .
04-02-2015 8:08 AM
04-02-2015 12:46 PM
More lives ...this is all utter maddness .
04-02-2015 3:06 PM
Plenty of muslims speaking out against IS now.
04-02-2015 3:55 PM
04-02-2015 4:14 PM
Ban all religion is the only way forward...
05-02-2015 3:30 PM
That's right. We should stop teaching outdated "Religion" to impressionable children. It only makes them grow up with absurd delusions.
Every child should receive a modern scientific education. Which teaches them the real facts about the Universe.
Not some silly fairy story, or barbarous desert superstition.
"Religion" should be consigned to the dustbin of history. We have outgrown it - we don't need it any more.
All it does is cause completely unnecessary trouble.
05-02-2015 3:47 PM
@malacandran wrote:That's right. We should stop teaching outdated "Religion" to impressionable children. It only makes them grow up with absurd delusions.
Every child should receive a modern scientific education. Which teaches them the real facts about the Universe.
Not some silly fairy story, or barbarous desert superstition.
"Religion" should be consigned to the dustbin of history. We have outgrown it - we don't need it any more.
All it does is cause completely unnecessary trouble.
Nice link to another thread - religious education is one of the compulsory subjects politicians have decided should be included in the national curriculum!
05-02-2015 4:15 PM
Thanks Creeky, I've just looked at the link you kindly provided. But it seems to be all about donkeys, is this relevant?
05-02-2015 4:28 PM
Teaching about various beliefs and religions should be a far cry from indoctrinating children into any particular one.
05-02-2015 4:59 PM
@bankhaunter wrote:Teaching about various beliefs and religions should be a far cry from indoctrinating children into any particular one.
I wouldn't teach them at all. Except perhaps as part of an "Ancient History" course.
10-02-2015 3:34 PM
Not in response to Malacandran in particular but I thought there were some interesting points made in this recent article in the Independent:
10-02-2015 4:06 PM - edited 10-02-2015 4:08 PM
Goodness me, that's a long article and it's provoked some very long responses too. Mods here would have a field-day with many of them?
The whole issue of what constitutes the koran is shrouded in myth and half-truths because some things mohammad said were written while he was still alive but most of it was written after his death. There were many versions of what he was supposed to have said and it wasn't long after it was realised there were differences so some chaps got together to cobble together a supposed "single" version and all others were (supposed to be) destroyed. Since then, things have been edited/added/redacted (whatever you want to call it) until we're where we're at today.
Sardar is quite right in saying that things are "not up for discussion", you accept what "they" say or suffer the consequences!
It's life Jim, but not as WE know it.
Live long and prosper.
10-02-2015 4:26 PM
@cee-dee wrote:
The whole issue of what constitutes the koran is shrouded in myth and half-truths because some things mohammad said were written while he was still alive but most of it was written after his death. There were many versions of what he was supposed to have said and it wasn't long after it was realised there were differences so some chaps got together to cobble together a supposed "single" version and all others were (supposed to be) destroyed. Since then, things have been edited/added/redacted (whatever you want to call it) until we're where we're at today.
Sardar is quite right in saying that things are "not up for discussion", you accept what "they" say or suffer the consequences!
Oops I didn't read the comments underneath CeeDee - I think I will self-report that link before any of my little friends do it for me x
The whole issue of what constitutes the koran is shrouded in myth and half-truths because some things mohammad said were written while he was still alive but most of it was written after his death.
I think that is true of most religious teachings, CeeDee they have been manipulated and tailored over the years to suit many different agendas along the way.
BTW 'ordinary' muslims are showing their condemnation of Isis etc on a small local level by holding meetings in Mosques and handing out street flyers etc.
Sadly nothing that is dramatic enough to make headline news necessarily.
10-02-2015 5:07 PM
I hope the link remains and that many people will read it all the way through.
You're quite right in saying that things were written long after "the event" but at least the Christians have "The Gospel according to........" so it's admitting some differences whereas the islamicists claim everything is "what mohammad said".
It's life Jim, but not as WE know it.
Live long and prosper.
13-02-2015 4:58 PM
Yeah. At least we know we can all rely on messiahs Murdoch, Dacre, and Desmond for "the truth"...