01-06-2025 11:37 AM
Hello
I am reporting this technical issue as the information may help with bug-fixing.
I bought an item, which I collected in person from the seller. It is item number 297345528475.
I made a 'best offer' for the item. I knew when I made the offer that I wanted to collect the item in person. I received the automated confirmation email of my offer from eBay. The automated confirmation email shows that I had selected 'free postage' from among the options available. I attach a screenshot of the automated email.
Nonetheless, when the seller accepted the offer, eBay automatically and immediately applied and collected from me additional delivery charges in error.
I understand that the seller cannot alter the offer once I have sent it so this seems to be a technical problem with how eBay applies charges. The alternative explanation would be a technical problem with how eBay generates its automated confirmation emails in response to 'best offers'. The effect is that charges have been applied and money collected from me without my authorisation.
I can provide further details on request.
01-06-2025 12:20 PM
I suggest you contact ebay customer services rather than post on a member to member forum.
01-06-2025 12:47 PM
I had, of course, already contacted eBay customer services. They had tried, in the first instance, to evade responsibility for the fact that payment had been taken from me by their system without my authorisation by suggesting that I needed to negotiate with the seller to secure a refund from him. At that time, eBay customer services indicated, via their chat function, that, if the seller did not refund the money, eBay would provide a refund themselves. Understandably, the seller refused to refund the money that had been taken from me without my authorisation for the unused delivery on the grounds that he had not received from eBay the money for the unused delivery. I then spoke to an eBay customer services agent in LA who indicated that the delivery company would refund money for unused deliveries after 30 days and I could pursue a refund thereafter. In a further conversation, ebay customer services, using the chat function, then turned rather obstructive when I pointed out that the error seemed to have arisen as a result of a technical problem with their process - and they then refused a refund outright. Ebay customer services changed their mind again this morning when I pointed out that they had already promised, in writing, a refund and they then adopted their current position: they would seek authorisation from 'higher ups' to provide a refund themselves and this would take a week. I have therefore reached the conclusion that the best approach is a more open conversation.
01-06-2025 1:57 PM
I read the first sentence of your reply. Great.
(Nobody on here is going to do any " bug-fixing" etc. as you originally implied. I didn't read the rest of your reply.)
01-06-2025 2:52 PM
Pretending not to read messages to which you reply is somewhat odd.
01-06-2025 4:13 PM
I said I read (your condescending) first sentence. I couldn't be bothered to read the rest.
01-06-2025 4:16 PM
You are just being rude and unhelpful. There is nothing condescending about making a report as I was advised, on the US forum, to do.
01-06-2025 4:18 PM
I should also explain that, when I asked eBay customer services how I could make a bug report, they were not able to provide an answer.
01-06-2025 4:46 PM
I'll try not to inflame things.
Is all the below in blue correct?
-you made a post on the US forums.
-someone, hopefully politely, said something like "this is the US forum, try the UK forum"
-so you posted it on the UK forum.
Fair enough.
Before posting on the US forum you had already contacted customer services. I've now read the rest of the message. They told you various things at various times [which I agree is difficult to accept].
In that message you say "he had not received from eBay the money for the unused delivery". Assuming that's true that would imply (and you could tell from the order) that the unused Postage Label is a Simple Delivery one. If unused, you will/would get a refund of that cost in 30 days.
Back to me being me then.
The forums are not there to raise bug reports. Ebay employees don't read the vast majority of messages.
Rightly or wrongly, ebay customer services (at the initial contact level), in my view, are more interested in resolving the issue (or telling you that is how things are supposed to work) than raising a bug an individual might "report". Clearly if they deem it a major issue or many people start raising a similar issue, (hopefully) there is a process to escalate it for more attention.
Hopefully the bold bit is correct and you get your money back at some stage.
If I look at the order page of one of my recent purchases on a web browser it shows "Standard tracked delivery" in the Payment Info. If your item says that or "Express tracked delivery" it's Simple Delivery and if the seller doesn't use the label, you should be refunded the postage cost automatically - if they haven't already done so manually in customer services. If it's not Simple Delivery than the seller would have to refund it or customer services have to sort it.
01-06-2025 5:16 PM
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Thank you for your recent message; that is helpful.
The blue text sounds close enough to me (but I can't confirm your blue text about how 'simple delivery' and related refunds are supposed to work because I don't know about that). The US forum post is here:-
After ebay Customer Services couldn't advise on how to report technical problems, I Googled how to make a bug report to ebay and was thereby directed to the US community forums and posted there, thinking they were for bug reporting.
Based on your advice, it sounds like the unused delivery was 'simple delivery'. It is good to hear that, if ebay doesn't intervene earlier, the delivery fees will be refunded after 30 days (although that would seem to push the matter past the deadlines for ebay's buyer protection).
The key issue I was trying to raise, though, is that, when I made a 'best offer' on a listing that offered either paid postage or free collection, eBay sent me an automated email advising that I had made a 'best offer' on the basis of free postage. When the offer was accepted I was then charged postage even though I had not authorised payment of any delivery fees (because I intended all along to collect the item in person). That seems very odd so I thought it helpful to try to report it.
Thank you for your time.
01-06-2025 5:23 PM