Massive Shipwreck with no Lifeboats

[baillin-0]

Been wondering since eBay did the changes, do's anyone there bother watching or listening what their once happy customers think about them.

Obviously they do not because nobody likes them. 

Majority saying they are thinking about leaving and jumping ship.

Wake up eBay.

Talk about keep the band playing while the ship goes down.

[superchallenge]

So leave. It's not like you're a hostage.

[morseidiot2]

Oh I don't know..an awful lot of people do still like them and will continue to use them.

The CEO cashed in 1.3million dollars worth of shares at the beginning of the month so he's probably planning his exit strategy, I seem to recall his tenureship was for 5 years and he's already done 4 so if it really does turn into a shipwreck it will be someone else clearing up the mess.

They plainly think that what they are doing is going to make them more money and that's the bottom line, they already have a huge customer base, if they lose some then they will have calculated the extra charges will make up for it and then some.

With almost stagnant growth its a bit of a gamble, but they will have been under pressure to increase income/profit, previously they had already laid off 9% of the workforce, and invested heavily in AI to save money.

Even if not as many people use them I don't think they will be overly bothered, this change  was focused on Private UK sellers and of course they have a much bigger market than just the UK although the UK is a fair chunk of it.

Now if business sellers start deserting the platform in droves through lack of sales then that might make them sit back and have a rethink but other than that...

[vinylscot]

I'd love to hear how you think a "majority" are thinking about leaving and jumping ship.

I don't like the changes - I have a private account too, but a couple of hundred, maybe 500 at most, does not constitute a majority. 

Those who are happy don't tend to post on these boards.

[asleepingdragon]

I hadn't been on this board for a while because the endless whinging was so boring.  Ventured here again... still whinging ... 

It's odd how private sellers who don't have businesses so don't need to sell on eBay at all, if eBay is so terrible, are still here complaining.

I don't understand it.  If you don't enjoy doing something you don't have to do - why not stop doing it?

[baillin-0]

"Aye Aye Captain"

Very brave of you going down with the ship? Will let your company know when I get ashore.

[baillin-0]

Hi, About the "majority" bit makes it sound a lot, never gave it a thought the numbers it had to be before calling something a majority. must have got carried away. Sorry.

Very true what you say about posting on here I never did before these changes. Happy days.

[baillin-0]

Hi Dragon, Wise words you sound just like my Mam. "What the hell are you whinging about now"  If you don't like it then don't do it, and she was always right!

Sorry for waking you up.

[edwardian-dreams]

Well that’s the problem

alot of people enjoyed doing ebay

now it’s one rose thorn after another

thats why they don’t enjoy it anymore

And maybe some,people want answers to why eBay have royally messed up like never before

(on the one hand they dictate which is their right I guess that thou shalt only be allowed simple delivery….on the other ..the simple delivery has been a Guinea pig trial on its users because it wasn’t worked out before shoving it on the masses and letting them deal with the fall out)

not that they’re going to get them

EBay are accountable to nobody 

whinge over I guess

e dog to say Brenda from accounts in the post office could have been commissioned to set up simple delivery at around 100th of the cost of whatever consultants they used …or robots …and would do a stellar job in a tenth of the time too 👍

[action_man]

I hadn't been on this board for a while because the endless whinging was so boring. Ventured here again... still whinging ...

It's odd how private sellers who don't have businesses so don't need to sell on eBay at all, if eBay is so terrible, are still here complaining.

I don't understand it. If you don't enjoy doing something you don't have to do - why not stop doing it?

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Aren't you now whinging about the whingers? You said "the endless whinging was so boring and if you don't enjoy doing something you don't have to do - why not stop doing it?". But then as you said, you ventured here again and added to it. So, I think maybe you answered your own question there.

If you don't enjoy hearing people complain then the best thing to do is stop reading people's complaints. It's simple really.

[edwardian-dreams]

Private sellers not having a business don’t need to sell on eBay at all

well maybe they do to pay the bills or declutter just for that and make a few quid in the process ,just like business have to I guess beyond making profits 

[action_man]

I think the reality is that a lot of us used to love eBay. It really was an amazing site years ago. But unfortunately those days are gone. What once was a gleaming beautiful paradise is now a crumbling ghost town. Many of us are finding it hard to adjust to that reality. We are upset by what we've lost and we (naively) hope that eBay will return to former glories.

Newsflash: It ain't ever gonna happen and we need to accept it.

As @superchallenge so eloquently put it above: "So leave. It's not like you're a hostage".

How charming! But it does sum up the new eBay perfectly. Suck it up or go away.

We are choosing to go away. But we're quite entitled to have our say on our way out as it is a community forum and we are rightly upset at the way eBay have shafted us. We are being pushed out and we will not go quietly and why should we?

[superchallenge]

My company is pretty well diversified, thanks. If eBay goes down, my company doesn't.

[edwardian-dreams]

Ghost town is about right

tumbleweed

other place V is busy

i wonder why that is

perhaps they don’t change things every 2 minutes or have such strangleholds 

[superchallenge]

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@action_man wrote:

As @superchallenge so eloquently put it above: "So leave. It's not like you're a hostage".

How charming! But it does sum up the new eBay perfectly. Suck it up or go away.

We are choosing to go away. But we're quite entitled to have our say on our way out as it is a community forum and we are rightly upset at the way eBay have shafted us. We are being pushed out and we will not go quietly and why should we?

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To be clear, I genuinely wasn't trying to be rude to anyone.

And yes, of course you are entirely entitled to have your say on the way out. Only, that isn't what's happening. What's happening is people are getting to the exit door, opening it, and then turning around and shouting back into the room, day after day after day after day. They derail threads at every turn. Threads where people are asking for advice are turned into "WHY BOTHER TRYING ANYTHING EBAY IS THE WORST I'M DEFINITELY REMOVING ALL MY LISTINGS AT 28:75 ON THE ELEVENTEENTH OF FLANUARY" over and over again. In the case of some posters, for actual YEARS now.

If you look at the OPs post history, you'll see that it's a new thread every other day.

It doesn't help anyone. It doesn't help them. It isn't going to change eBay's mind. 0.000000001% of the sellers on eBay are on these boards. If everybody who posted here in the last month left tomorrow and never came back, eBay wouldn't even see the dip. Especially given most of them are complaining that they never, ever, ever sell anything anymore.

The old days aren't coming back. Never again will you watch people battle it out to bid on a bent spoon, wait for the winner to send you a cheque, then have six months to stick the item in a paper bag with the buyer's address written on it in chunky crayon, and slap some stamps on it.

The eBay you have now is the eBay you have to deal with. If it doesn't suit you, that's absolutely fine! There are other alternatives these days. I just don't get what benefit there is to people wasting their lives trying to make out that anyone who is sticking around (which, let's be honest, is probably something close to the 90-99% range) is an idiot, sheep, lemming, or whatever, because eBay is somehow going to be out of business next week. Especially when they're still actually here themselves.

[action_man]

@superchallenge "To be clear, I genuinely wasn't trying to be rude to anyone".

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Just when you think you've heard it all.....

[superchallenge]

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@action_man wrote:

@superchallenge "To be clear, I genuinely wasn't trying to be rude to anyone".

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Just when you think you've heard it all.....

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I was stating - in as short a method as possible, as people often don't tend to read entire posts - that the person wasn't under any obligation to be here if they did not wish to be.

I don't see how that's rude.

[roger_roger_over_and_nowt]

"Never again will you watch people battle it out to bid on a bent spoon, wait for the winner to send you a cheque, then have six months to stick the item in a paper bag with the buyer's address written on it in chunky crayon, and slap some stamps on it."

I just fell off the chair i was trying to sit on !.🤣

[the_book_seekers]

The biggest problem for me is ebay has created a scenario where buyers think they are being ripped off  with BPF. Anything that upsets buyers is a bad thing for all sellers.