09-02-2025 2:55 PM
When simple delivery is made mandatory for private sellers will the process be as follows:
* Purchasing buyer chooses the postage option they want i.e. Royal Mail or EVRI
* Buyer completes checkout, buying the postage from ebay
* Ebay sends the postage label to the private seller
What if a private seller does not have a printer to print the label that ebay sends them?
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11-02-2025 8:00 AM
That merits applause. I found a superb post by "nutwood collection" (I think) last night and this one edges it.
Maybe someone should create a new thread compiling best posts so they don't get buried in chit chat.
11-02-2025 8:14 AM
Even when SD becomes compulsory, it will still be possible to arrange the shipping yourself - ebay have thought of this but at the seller's expense !
You simply do not use the SD generated label - the buyer will receive a refund - the seller then buys their own label and loses the extra protection. But the seller gets to choose their own delivery service !
11-02-2025 8:24 AM
You didn't think that though. The buyer chooses from the delivery options.
If you do as above you are in breach of terms of sale and open for a not as described claim, instantly.
11-02-2025 8:28 AM
Even when SD becomes compulsory, it will still be possible to arrange the shipping yourself - ebay have thought of this but at the seller's expense !
Bless and you believe this ?
11-02-2025 8:28 AM
@dch2112011 wrote:Even when SD becomes compulsory, it will still be possible to arrange the shipping yourself - ebay have thought of this but at the seller's expense !
You simply do not use the SD generated label - the buyer will receive a refund - the seller then buys their own label and loses the extra protection. But the seller gets to choose their own delivery service
Is that official? I must admit I have already been running that idea round in my head.
Will there be the option of putting my own tracking number against a sale? (So that I get paid on delivery.)
I thought maybe If the buyer chooses Royal Mail I will use the supplied label and arrange collection; if the buyer chooses Evri or whatever else becomes available, I buy my own Royal Mail label. (I'll tell the buyer they have received a free upgrade. 😁 )
(Obviously only works if sale price can cover it.)
11-02-2025 8:35 AM
Please read my previous reply to them. They are wrong, majorly.
It needs to be shut down lest someone tries to copy their ridiculous idea.
11-02-2025 8:41 AM - edited 11-02-2025 8:41 AM
It's been confirmed as correct by a community manager.
11-02-2025 8:45 AM
What? ??????!!!???
As soon as the buyer is involved in selection process for transit it becomes a term of sale between buyer and seller. The seller in that scenario would be in breach, with both buyer and eBay.
11-02-2025 8:48 AM
It's been confirmed as correct by a community manager.
what has and which community manager?
11-02-2025 9:23 AM
It's also in the Simple Delivery policy where it says if you decide not to use the SD label there is no need to void the label. There are no conditions attached to that advice.
11-02-2025 9:28 AM
But that's only company policy, not consumer law. So it's virtually meaningless under challenge. It's why high street stores nearly all have the "this does not affect your statutory rights" disclaimer on boards and sometimes receipts.
I'm just thinking with my buyers hat right now. If I buy something I will not be selecting Evri. My regular driver is cool, but as soon as he has time off it goes to hell. Every, single, time. So if I select Royal Mail then that is my term of sale. Any attempt to change that after I have been given that option is breach.
11-02-2025 9:37 AM
Very thought-provoking, thank you.
Much support and no issue at all...except for a very point. You wrote: "Okay, if, for example, the seller hands over the damaged package at a quiet village Post Office, the nice man or lady at the counter might remember to point it out when the postie comes to collect the mail*, but what about a busy Post Office taking hundreds of items a day,"
Many village post office will be quiet or seem to be. But in my own area and one or two areas I know fairly well at the other end of th country, these post offices are effectively permanently under-staffed, as it's usually only one person handling the tills for post office and for the shop, running the shop e.g. shelf-stacking/receiving & unpacking supplies, if it's a garage too they're receiving fuel tankers, maybe being a drop-off point for courier parcels, and the place may well be part-time. So queues can be long and the place really busy, even if not by a simple numerical comparison with urban post offices, or rather they're extremely busy at certain times - like London buses, nothing for a while then everything. Queues can lengthen (often waiting for them to open) and when people choose them to avoid the long queues in urban post offices in the run up to Christmas. Such queues are testament to customer determination in places where public transport is rare or non-existent (e.g. no public transport west and north-west of me for 70 miles).
As rural post offices tend to be physically small, it doesn't take long for queues to extend out of the door, and because with Royal Mail cuts there aren't enough post offices as are needed. Anywhere (rural or urban) you have to travel a long way to a post office, you try to save up items to post or other errands to deal with in one go, to save on the number of trips, so each customer's turn takes time, lengthening the queue.
Same was true of my local Lloyds Bank, long-since closed, was open 2 hours two afternoons a week but should've been open longer as queues routinely spilled into the street, so it was far busier than an urban branch.
11-02-2025 9:45 AM
After a few minutes thought I saw other variables that would also be breach.
Example, I select Royal Mail Small Parcel pricing for my purchase. Seller voids, eBay lets them, Seller chooses Royal Mail large letter to save money.
Fairly certain both seller and eBay are liable in this and my aforementioned scenario.
11-02-2025 9:51 AM
@andha-21 wrote:After a few minutes thought I saw other variables that would also be breach.
Example, I select Royal Mail Small Parcel pricing for my purchase. Seller voids, eBay lets them, Seller chooses Royal Mail large letter to save money.
Fairly certain both seller and eBay are liable in this and my aforementioned scenario.
It is possible that my understanding is wrong, but I thought the buyer's choice would be RM or Evri, not which specific service within those companies?
11-02-2025 9:57 AM
To be honest I'm not certain either, I haven't come across it yet. But I do remember seeing pricing columns for both services. The columns obviously being different packing sizes against values below and above £100.
So by that I'd assume packing sizes are integrated within the system, the level of choices is the unknown.
But my previous example, me as a buyer selecting Royal Mail, seller voids, ebay allows it, seller uses Evri is breach, almost certainly by both parties.
By allowing me, the buyer, choice of transit selection, eBay are making it my term of sale. Anything other than my selection is by default breach, opening "not as described" cases instantly against eBay if I'm not mistaken.
11-02-2025 10:09 AM
Right now none of us knows what the 'new' SD will look like when/if it is rolled out.
The best proxy we have is what SD looks like now, which is explained here:
11-02-2025 10:10 AM
irt303 wrote:
Seller: There used to be, but it closed two years ago.
eBay: So why does Google say there is?
Exactly. These big organisations! Years ago Amazon reckoned I could collect from my village post-office. It was within the village shop, and both shop and post office had closed 7 years before. I told Amazon, took them months to update it, perhaps they had to check I was telling the truth.
It took my doctor's surgery 5 years before its change of address was updated on the SPINE (NHS database). It meant that scan results often went astray. I happened to find out by chance and told my doctor. He said scan results are usually (not always) also sent digitally but that they were 6 months behind looking at & filing the digital items.
11-02-2025 10:12 AM
You say alot when your certainty changes. Not a criticism, just an observation.
If like you say, a community manager had confirmed their/someone else's suggestion, then eBay should possibly start considering to unconfirm that pretty fast.
If they pull that on me, as a buyer, I won't let them go easily.
11-02-2025 10:12 AM
Sorry, "Much support and no issue at all...except for a very point." should read "Much support and no issue at all...except for a very small point."
11-02-2025 10:18 AM
@eastern-lights wrote:It is possible that my understanding is wrong, but I thought the buyer's choice would be RM or Evri, not which specific service within those companies?
The way that Simple Delivery currently works is that the buyer gets to choose from "Standard" or "Express" options. As is often the case with eBay my experience is that this doesn't work properly, and both show the same expected delivery date. The carrier used in each case isn't shown and is chosen automatically by eBay, apparently based on factors such as the size, weight and value of the package, and available drop-off locations close to the seller (good luck with that). I haven't seen anything to suggest that this will change when it becomes mandatory.