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two pictures here......... one traditional irish dancers

 

next........ to compete you know have to wear makeup wigs and dresses that cost a fortune.

 

my wee girl was doing irish dancing, but i refuse to tart my child up.

 

irish dance traditional.jpgirish dance american style.jpg

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It is quite ridiculous .....definitely something that needs to be challenged.

There is something a bit creepy about the wigs in particular .....

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Something looks really wrong with the bottom picture, looks like a cartoon. Some wierd things going on nowadays. 

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The top picture is lovely & what I would expect Irish Dancing to look like.

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Absolute madness, I think the girls look far better in the plain black dresses. When I used to compete (soooooo many years ago), we all had plain dark coloured dresses, after all they are supposed to be judging the dancing, not the dress or hairstyle.

 

Well done you for daring to rebel!

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The lower photo is American, no?? Smiley Indifferent

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gawd strewth!!!scream smiley.gifthey look diabolical, I'm with you Kate, no no no!!!!!!

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That bottom photo could only be in America couldn't it?

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There was a documentary about this, re the cost of the dresses and the wigs make-up, and the pushy mums. And it was Britain, no the USA.
I'm with you Kate, the top picture is much nicer!!!

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An Coimusiun Rules On Irish Dance Costumes

Dress rules for An Coimusiun competitions and Feis'.

The Coimusiun was set up to preserve and promote Irish Dancing.The Coimusiun was slightly alarmed at some of the costumes dancers were starting to wear and a sub-committee was set up to produce rules in relation to the dress code acceptable in competition

These rules have now been adopted in full by An Coimisiun and any infringement of these rules will result in the dancers being refused the right to compete.

It should be stressed however, that these rules refer solely to costumes worn in competitions and do not refer to, nor are they intended as a criticism in any way of less traditional forms of costume made popular by stage shows.

The rules in relation to costumes are as follows:

 

    • Costumes must consist of a full front and back section i.e. cut away styles are not acceptable

       

    • Materials must be of equivalent weight to that used in the more traditional costumes, e.g. dress velvet, trevira, gabardine, wool-mix, etc.

       

    • Skirt lengths - the minimum skirt length is not more than four inches above the knee level. It is hoped that the introduction of this rule will prevent excessively short skirt lengths.

       

    • Neck lines must be of collar bone level or above. This does not preclude the use of alternative fabrics, e.g. lace, as an insert.

       

    • Where chiffon or lace material is used as sleeves,the sleeves must start at the shoulder line and end at the cuff.

       

    • Appropriate underwear must be worn. Where tights are worn they must be of a denier of not less than 70.

       

    • Dance-drama costumes must be in keeping with the theme of the story portrayed and conform to the rules above for solo and team competitions particularly in the area of fabric, hem and neck-lines.
    • The purpose of these rules is to ensure that public competitions are run in a manner designed to show Irish dancing to its best advantage and to ensure the rights of all those who compete are protected. 
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      And no...those sorts of dancers are not only in America but in England too as this is now the 'norm' The dress is more of a costume now and regrettably is judged as well as the dancing. If you think pantomime dame in a short skirt you will get the picture.The new rules were brought in as the dresses were becoming so short as to be indecent,nothing more than a strip of material with puff balls becoming increasingly common.
      Dancers are often told to buy dance shoes a size too small as smaller feet are 'neater'
      It was only last year that new regulations were brought in banning the use of fake tan,wigs and make up for dancers in the under 12 catagories.
      There is now a trend towards more natural hair styles rather than the wigs but this is taking a long time to be accepted.Dancers are marked down as the hair has to balance the dress....Stupid  I  know.
      The traditional competition Irish dancing dress had a high collar,long sleeves,full stiffened skirt to knee level and was traditionally heavily hand embroidered with Celtic symbols...the dancer wore no make up and had their hair tied back or wore a simple head band.They were/are exceptionally heavy to wear and notoriously difficult to clean.
      Hopefully the trend will eventually return to the traditional look but it's going to take a determined effort by many parents and dancers who are willing to buck the trend and cope with the disappointment of rarely being placed in the competitions.There is no way to move up the rankings into the next sections if you don't get placed.
      I wish you all the luck in the world Tara,I hope you and other parents in your daughter's dance class can begin the changes.

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1st pic - great, 2nd pic, awful! Can't believe it's not American.  When my daughter was doing Irish dancing, their costumes were emerald green dresses with elaborate embroidery on the front, but no one had to wear an 18th century wig!! They had their hair loose or tied back; they sometimes competed against ballet dancers, who all had the "stapled back" hairstyles.  One of the judges was known to prefer dancers with dark hair.

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fantastic post twishy.

oh i would love to have seen stroppy dancing.

 

just knew you would all agree that this trend of fake/fake/fake carp is taking over everything.

 

and dont start me on pageants........... make me cringe to my core when i see kiddies dressed

like adults...never mind parents putting children up against one another for who is the most

beautiful.Smiley Mad

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Daughter did 1 competition and OH hired a dress so she wouldn't stand out as different.  I quietly encouraged her in giving up as she wasn't that good, wasn't one of the  favoured few, there was no reall assistance from the dance teacher as to what to expect etc in competitions and the whole set up of the competition was slow cumbersome and totally boring, besides over running for 3 hours.  As far as i could see the whole thing from lessons up was a "how much can we fleece out of these suckers" operation.  Then the teacher moved, told us by notice on the door, favoured few already knew and snce it was the other side of town through major traffic and half an hour after school finished(so no way was going to make it) we just dropped out.

 

Think the only reason adughter was tolerated was because teacher wanted son to take it up.  When daughter was tring to line up her feet horizontally son just showed her how. Turn feet sideways? huh, more like 270 degrees, boy was the teacher impressed, poor woman. What the teacher didn't realise was that his double jointedness went with a total lack of balance!

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@hightara wrote:

 

oh i would love to have seen stroppy dancing.

 

 

 


Oh my dancing was indeed a sight to be seen, once seen never forgotten. There are still folks out there scarred for life after watching my dancing.

 

Actually I used to love my irish dancing, I won trophies for it, I also have trophies for playing the fiddle and the uilleann pipes.

 

I couldn't agree with you more about pageants - bring back the good old fashioned bonny baby competition!

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Some days I just pray to the god of sex and drums and rock 'n' roll
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uilleann pipesSmiley Surprised

 

my all time favourite........ the sound is beautiful.

 

my lord, you lot certainly hide your light under a bushelSmiley Happy

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