26-02-2015 7:34 PM
A couple of conflicting reports on what happens when someone dies and is then revived:-
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/02/26/what-happens-when-we-die-story_n_6758554.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/08/life-after-death-science_n_5945000.html?ir=UK+Lifestyle
What do you make of those?
Me? OK, I don't think the brain dies immediately. As to what you experience, I think depends on the individual.
It can be a bit like sleeping. Some people dream prolifically (me) and others dream very little or not at all.
There have been cases where someone has been "drowned" in cold water for a long time before being rescued and revived but has no recollection of what went on.
It's life Jim, but not as WE know it.
Live long and prosper.
26-02-2015 7:52 PM
The doctor told my mum that she'd died after I was born. When she 'came back' the nurse asked her what it was like to be dead. My mum always maintained it was just like being asleep - there was just nothingness.
26-02-2015 8:09 PM
26-02-2015 11:54 PM
As you well know our views on this subject are as different as chalk and cheese. My cousin experienced an NDE after his heart stopped during an operation but he chooses not to talk about it. There is overwhelming evidence of people seeing "lights at the end of the tunnel" and of being drawn towards a a "different" sphere as some would describe it. To these people wh have experienced NDE's or out of body experiences "looking down" with a degree of interest at what is going on in the theatre, these experiences are very, very real and no way do they describe them as a way of them getting their "fifteen minutes of fame." God have given me a wonderful life. Any ill health has been as a direct resilt of me abusing my body - diabetes type II for a start. Thus I have no real wish to leave this beautiful earth a second earlier than I am called, but I firmly believe in a life after death. However, the Bible also warns you not to seek contact with those on the other side, for not all those are honest, nor indeed are those claiming to have that ability. That is why I would never enter a Spiritualist Church.
If being drawn towards a warm and comforting life is the start of the next juorney, then such a beginning would surely be a pleasant one. The only thing I fear is being forced to make an account of my sinful, perverted life, but thus said, as Christians it is in Jesus Christ we place our total trust. Whatever, I know for a fact that when that day comes, I will be prostrate with terror, knowing that just one person, and one person only will intercede on my behalf.
I may well be wrong. I do not fear death, only the way I die.
27-02-2015 7:56 AM
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27-02-2015 8:09 AM
Goats are not fussy.
27-02-2015 8:26 AM
27-02-2015 8:52 AM
" However, the Bible also warns you not to seek contact with those on the other side, for not all those are honest, nor indeed are those claiming to have that ability. That is why I would never enter a Spiritualist Church."
So does that prove that theyre is something on the 'other side' then & so SOME spiritualists are for real !
27-02-2015 9:36 AM - edited 27-02-2015 9:39 AM
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Blimey Fred...'prostrate with terror' when you have to account for your 'sinful,perverted life'..
What the fudge have you been up to??? I've got nuffink that exciting to fess...
Do tell if it will ease your burden,there's only me here and I won't tell,goldfish confidentiality and all that
27-02-2015 10:01 AM
Of course if you were a catholic you just confess & all your sins would be forgiven! Simples! 😉
27-02-2015 10:11 PM
Aha, that would be telling!
I confess my sins to my Saviour, not to a priest - just a normal man doing a job who utters those words of comfort so many Catholics love to hear: "Your sins are forgiven." Words of great comfort, but that is all they are. Because "Nobody comes to the Father except through the Son." Confessing your sins to a priest gives many a "feel good" factor. But what if the priest, having got out on the wrong side of bed and having a bad day snaps: "No, your sins are NOT forgiven!" What then?
Are you going to spend the rest of your days wondering whether your goose is already cooked? My paternal grandmother was raised in a convent and the local priest insisted that all her children were to be raised as Catholics. She told him straight that they would be raised C.o.E. and decide whichever faith they chose to follow once they were old enough to decide for themselves. In an act of extreme vengeance he threatened to, and did, have her excommunicated. Her short answer? "God, not man, will be my judge."
After my spiritual rebirth - 2003, I wrote and self-published a book on people's private testimonies and how it affected their lives called "In Him I Place My Trust" which forms part of my own testimony.
Somebody who died for you is unlikely to foresake you when you meet them face to face, but the uncertainty, like a child being afraid of the dark is still real. "Oh ye of little faith." still comes into it for many as they approach the end times, so full of self doubt. Here endeth the second lesson
27-02-2015 10:20 PM
People are free to believe what they will and so long as they don't try to impose their beliefs by force on others, that fine.
However, those variously believing in Paradise or "meeting again" are going to be disappointed. Unfortunately, there'll be no coming back to tell us so.
It's life Jim, but not as WE know it.
Live long and prosper.
27-02-2015 10:27 PM
It isn't a case of once your heart stops beating you're dead. Your brain takes about four minutes to die completely. Like when you hold up a sponge and see all the water drain out, so it is with the brain as all the senses die one by one. One eminent doctor who quite literally lost his head at the guillotine proved this by actually blinking and moving his eyes focussing on certain things for about forty seconds.
27-02-2015 10:34 PM
Read the links in my OP?
However.... people have been "dead" for much longer than mentioned there and have been revived. As ever, it depends on the person as to what they remember. It's either like a dream or nothing.
Chickens are a bit different, you can chop their head off and they can flap their wings, even run around........ NO, before you ask, I've never done it.
It's life Jim, but not as WE know it.
Live long and prosper.
27-02-2015 11:19 PM
My hubby has, many times and it's true, they do.
27-02-2015 11:20 PM
Re: Headless chickens
I have but only through neccessity! Cyprus, when there were the curfews and you had to eat. They were there for food, pure and simple. They ran around headless for about eight seconds before standing still and toppling over. A lot less painful than trying to wring it's neck, and quicker too. As a kid of about five I used to help pluck them once they were dead. It was quite an education.
28-02-2015 9:55 AM
I think, that the story of the beheaded doctor is just that, a story.. it cannot be proven..
and yes, chickens will run around for a while due to the nervous system, they are not alive though...in the true sense.
28-02-2015 10:12 AM
As some of you know, I was as Senior Nurse in Cardio-Thoracic Intensive Care...
In the 13 years that I worked there, I obviously saw dozens, probably hundreds of 'deaths'...some for minutes, some for a LOT longer, if there were problems getting the patient off the bypass machine e.g....
Anyhoo...not one single one of my patients ever described anything out of the ordinary.
Occasionally, we would have bods come & do questionnaires about it.
if this is upsetting to anyone...just my personal experience.