Coming soon to eBay Mandatory Simple Delivery

[andha-21]

Someone found the dates yesterday and posted them. Just thought it made sense to make it easier to find.

It's in the Help Section under Opt out 

Simple Delivery will be the only listing option as of 15th April and they will start adjusting current listings from the 7th April.

So at least we know where the Iceberg is now. 

[theelench]

The last thing I read (admittedly a few weeks ago)  was that under SD rules you agree to dispatch your sales within 2 days of purchase. 

Not sure where 3 days has come from, but I'm pretty sure that with SD you don't get to choose, you post according to ebay's time-table and that starts from when you buy the label.

"Softly, softly catchee monkey"  Ebay has been trying for years to get all sellers to post Tracked and to send same or next day at the latest.  At last they've achieved that for all private sellers, probably on pain of a defect for failing to do so.

[andrew713_buckle713]

I always sort out the label as soon as I get the order, it is then labelled as 'dispatched' ... which means it gets as far as the end of the hallway waiting for me to take it to the post office (which may or may not be open if it is the weekend) 

I think it is a good thing that all the orders are tracked, before simple delivery I used to send tracked 48 by default. I like getting tracked orders when they are coming to me as well, nice to know where an item is as opposed to 'untracked' and then wondering why after 2 weeks it still hasn't arrived. 

[andrew713_buckle713]

I agree, it isn't the number of listings that makes a private or business. If you are buying the items (or making them yourself etc) for the purposes of reselling for profit then you are business. During a lifetime, people build up 1000s and 1000s of things in their house and sometimes they suddenly decide to declutter (you only have to watch a programme like Stacey Solomon's sort out your life and see the zillions of things that people have in a house). A big clue would be selling 33 copies of a particular book in a short space of time, more likely a reseller than someone selling single books from a collection. 

[andrew713_buckle713]

Since simple delivery, I have just moved everything to buyer pays for the postage. Certain it has an impact as people seem to like the magic 'free delivery' but I haven't noticed a huge difference and I prefer it that the buyer can decide whether they want tracked 48, tracked 24, "Take as long as you want" delivery, "give it me now" etc services.  Also as other services are added, they can decide on those such as inPost (I got rid of evri from my preferences though) 

[akemp1]

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@theelench wrote:

"Softly, softly catchee monkey" 

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Softly, softly, why have the private monkeys who sell interesting items gone elsewhere?

They are trying to square a circle if they think private sellers will on average be as fast to dispatch as a big business with scheduled staffing hours can be.

[diesel.uk]

Might work for you, but I buy a lot of low value items and nothing kills a bargain more than having to pay 3x the item value in postage just so that £1 item can be tracked.

[theelench]

I don't know what you buy but I must have bought between 100 - 200 glass items over the past decade.  Most RM 2nd Class, but a few sent Hermes / Evri tracked (when the seller quoted for RM but changed their mind without telling me.  If they had I would have cancelled the order).

ALL the RM items delivered safely, some of the "Tracked" evri items "delivered" to one of my neighbours without a card to say which.  My sales ALL sent RM 2nd Class arrived safely.

The only exceptions being high value items I've bought and even then RM Tracked.  Unless an item is needed in a hurry or high value the only one to gain from Tracked delivery is ebay because what they can skim off is more than un-tracked.

[andrew713_buckle713]

I just like to know that they are the way when it comes to tracked. If I buy and it is untracked it could turn up in two days, it could be about three weeks or it just vanishes. Just prefer to know it is working its way through the system and with the technology, we should even have 'parcelcam' (ok, perhaps pushing it too far) 

[andrew713_buckle713]

I agree, if the item is super low then I can understand the no tracking but if you pay £20 or £50 quid for a book, it is nice to know that it is on the way and you can see it is at this or that depot, perhaps that is just me !! Had too many books that are sent untracked and never turn up and then I have to get a refund or resend. At least when it is tracked, I also sort of know when it is going to arrive so I am in to pick it up 

Also when sending as a private seller, it is nice to see the listing that the book as arrived (or delivered). 

[warnjuli]

I think there is something new coming.... I had a 'glitch'??  I was listing a buy it now to help with the 300 limit, and it was like an auction, 10days max for a buy it now.... is this their next thing as if you list buy it now you can have more listings.  What business consistently makes it harder to sell ?

[johnwash1]

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@andrew713_buckle713 wrote:

I always sort out the label as soon as I get the order, it is then labelled as 'dispatched' ... which means it gets as far as the end of the hallway waiting for me to take it to the post office (which may or may not be open if it is the weekend) 

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You wouldn't have that problem if you bought direct from RM and only marked 'dispatched' when it really was.  I'm talking pre-SD of course.

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@andrew713_buckle713 wrote:

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I think it is a good thing that all the orders are tracked, before simple delivery I used to send tracked 48 by default. I like getting tracked orders when they are coming to me as well, nice to know where an item is as opposed to 'untracked' and then wondering why after 2 weeks it still hasn't arrived. 

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But isn't it nice that pre-SD we had choices.  You could do it your way, those who felt tracking on a cheap item was overkill could do it their way.  Choices.

[akemp1]

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@andrew713_buckle713 wrote:

If I buy and it is untracked it could turn up in two days, it could be about three weeks or it just vanishes.

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If you buy tracked the same things could happen.

I agree tracked is a bit nicer and I'm happy to spend the extra 10p at parcel rate for Tracked48 especially for the enhanced protection where appropriate but on low value/weight Large Letter it's really not worth an extra £1+ for SD.

[theelench]

Does it really  matter if whatever you purchased might turn-up in 2 days or 4 days ?   A much more likely scenario than your 'three weeks' and I've NEVER had an RM parcel vanish in a decade, buying or selling. 

Quite frankly IMO, you don't really need to know, when 99. 99% arrive within RMs estimate.  I'd say you're a victim of ebay induced paranoia about how quickly a seller can get your purchase to you and has made you overly sensitive.

Try to see through ebay creating so called problems with slow delivery, only to increase their profits, because apart from ebay's profits, it doesn't actually matter to most buyers.

Does it matter to me if my latest purchase of a piece of vintage glass arrives in 3 or 4 days or even 6?  No, not one iota.

What is it that you buy where it makes the slightest difference?

[andrew713_buckle713]

Err, yes ... I have had too many packages over the years just not turn up.  If the business says it will arrive in 30 days then I am happy to wait 30 days. If it is three months, I am happy for that. It is that when it is dispatched and using royal mail or whatever service and it still hasn't turned up after 2 or 3 weeks, you get to the point where 'it is lost'.  Royal mail is the best of all of them, If I see a delivery is being done by some couriers then my heart sinks. 

Everyone is different.  Very odd concept I know. I love that you say it doesn't matter to most buyers, how do you know this. I can only base my opinion on a sample size of one. 

[moonlight-rhapsody]

"If the business says it will arrive in 30 days then I am happy to wait 30 days. If it is three months, I am happy for that."

Are you serious, or is that hyperbole for the purpose of making the point?  I've been buying on ebay for 18 years and I've never EVER seen delivery dates of 30 days, let alone 3 months.

Most times I've received the item within a few days and that's fine.  Very occasionally I think it may have taken a week or more, but I don't think I've ever *not* received an item. 

The main thing is for the seller to be truthful about when they plan to despatch, whether that's next day or a week's time, and then the buyer has the choice of buying from someone else if they don't want to wait.

Ebay trying to shoe-horn everybody into 2-day despatch time isn't workable for many people.  Ebay seem to have no concept about some people's lives outside their own narrow experience, either that or they just don't care.  Actually, on reflection, it's probably the latter.