Everything new was at one time beyond our capability.

WHERE'S THIS ALL GOIN' TO END.  😄

It won't, there is always something new to discover.

Everything we do now nwas, at one time beyond our capability but step by step, we got where we are. You can't jump steps though.

Imagine a 1985 mobile phone maker deciding he's gonna make a phone which does what an iPhone or a Samsung Galaxy does? Impossible then.

Where will this all end? In about 5 billion years the Sun will start to run out of fuel, it'll expand and roast the Earth.

Flat packs are one thing Pete but Space Travel is on a different level.

Like I said about the mobile phone, you can't skip a step and suddenly go from the bricks to the iPhone.

The steps required several stages and several different technologies, least of which was battery technology coupled with the lower power requirements of improved circuitry/devices. There was no way of jumping a stage and so it will be with Space Travel.

The facts are ,as a being we are looking for the answer to the question of survival. We will one day, need to leave to survive (even if its a, to leave to return with...) so all study of time and space is well founded imo .

Then again through fiddling about with things (as we do) we could just end up inviting the Borg and Darleks which will give us more fiddling and study to survive.so all study of time and space should be banned imo 🙂

Why vs how . What causes the brain of humans to try ? No other species gives a monkey dropping , Is that evolution or is this god ??

Why vs how . What causes the brain of humans to try ? No other species gives a monkey dropping , Is that evolution or is this god ??

Well I know how I would answer that, God created us with a far more superior brain than anything else on earth, with the ability to think and reason rather than just live by instinct alone.

We are though as human beings all in possesion of a brain that we do not use to it's full capacity/capabilities, we only use about one third of our brain, due to the penalty of growing old and dying a wage for sin. You have Adam and Eve and Satan to thank for that.

By the way, Adam and Eve, won't ever be ressurected because of their most serious transgression.

Why do threads have to be disrupted by off-topic posts, all by the same person diverting to the same subject?

Excuse me CD, was that post posted because of my contribution? well I apologise but it isn't OT because I quoted the question asked by spawnjohn in post 206, then answered it.

I think my post was quite relevant and the question as it is a thread on public forum, as far as I understand, is open to anyone who wishes to contribute to the topic being discussed.

My intention is to join in with the knowledge I have on the subject not to disrupt it in anyway. Unfortunately I have no control how the readers will view my posts, as long as I do not post with unkind remarks, disrespect and vulgarity and am friendly in the way I post I would have thought I am doing nothing wrong. I am all for decorum on a forum in the same way as any of our other decent posters.

Why vs how . What causes the brain of humans to try ? No other species gives a monkey dropping , Is that evolution or is this god ??   Well I know how I would answer that, God created us with a far more superior brain than anything else on earth, with the ability to think and reason rather than just live by instinct alone.   We are though as human beings all in possesion of a brain that we do not use to it's full capacity/capabilities, we only use about one third of our brain, due to the penalty of growing old and dying a wage for sin. You have Adam and Eve and Satan to thank for that.   By the way, Adam and Eve, won't ever be ressurected because of their most serious transgression.

I meant to have added, that because our brains are far more superior, we want to learn and explore, find answers to complicated questions, so I certainly don't think we evolved from apes where we just swung from tree to tree.

This thread was meant to be of a scientific nature dealing with the formation of the Universe and exploring the possibilities leading to the big bang and the causes thereof and is not and was not meant to be not religious based.

While I appreciate you hold different beliefs I’d appreciate it if you either stay within the tenets of the discussion in relation to technology and science

 or post your own thread on the subject.

This thread was meant to be of a scientific nature dealing with the formation of the Universe and exploring the possibilities leading to the big bang and the causes thereof and is not and was not meant to be not religious based.   While I appreciate you hold different beliefs I’d appreciate it if you either stay within the tenets of the discussion in relation to technology and science  or post your own thread on the subject.

I do apologise CD, though even my earlier posts did have a part to play in this thread because you had brought up the subject of the big bang, I was contributing by stating there was no big bang so the scientific theories are void IMHO.

But as it is, you have made it clear I am not welcome unless I talk science then fair enough, I will bid you good night.

May I just ask though, before I take my leave, why ask such questions on a public forum when you are not prepared to hear answers from a mixed bag of fellow posters? it does appear that you will take notice of some even though you perhaps don't agree with them, but, as mine lean towards something you dislike it is unacceptable for it to be posted.

I tend to join in on threads that I know something about and feel confident in what I am contributing when it interests me. There is also a wealth of scientic evidence too to add but I purposely hold back because many would not want it anyway.

Most subjects about life concerns and our planet have an answer that has something very much to do with creation and who/what brought it about, so naturally it interests me very much.

So CD, thank you for an interesting thread, I hope you do find anwers to your many questions.:-) thankfully I have.;-)

Some of the most renowned scientists believe that God was involved in the Big Bang

The others think the exact opposite.

We've seen as long ago as 1945 what happens when two small chunks of stuff are slammed together (the A bomb) so it's quite logical to speculate (?) that :-

1/ somehow some bigger chunks were slammed together.

2/ the big bang was just one of many

3/ enormous amounts of matter had been accumulated in an enormous Black Hole and the pressure produced so much heat it exploded

4/ such happenings have occurred many times over trillions upon trillions of years

5/ the Universe as we know it is just that, = only the bit we know about.

A straightforward opinion about scientists and a belief in God

http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/question.php?number=231

The ultimate point is that science does not deal with belief; it deals with things that you can prove. And since we can't prove or disprove the existence of God, the question of whether or not a person believes in God doesn't (or at the very least shouldn't) have anything to do with scientific reasoning.

Can we please get back on track?

Well, not being an astrophysicist, :-(this is way beyond my comprehension and quite honestly, being as i have a lot more worldly problems, I leave this to you lot to argue the toss over.:-D

Cheers,

John. 

Can we please get back on track?

no probs ...god created the big bang and scientists 😛

no probs ...god created the big bang and scientists 😛

And what created the creator? Et cetera :^O