irene and jeffery, i am very sorry to both of you, we all make mistakes from time to time as we are only human, i know i hurt you both and that i have been an idiot, but i hoped you could find it in your hearts to forgive me, i remember you starting a thread talk about your troubles, i could write a book about all mine, what happened that night was the start of me becoming mentally ill again, and i take full responsabilty for what happened, it was wrong of me and i am very sorry, please try and find it in your hearts to forgive me, to err is human, to forgive is divine, and i am only human :-(