Many thanks for the info, Hefzi; lot's of ideas to try there. also to everyone else with their suggestions. Please keep the suggestions coming, as there seem to be a few of us on here with the same problem, and what works for one, won't work for another. Incidentally, another lousy night last night! I never have a lie-in though, tempting as it is. Got to get up to feed the pets anyway. I've been a bad sleeper for as long as I can remember but since going into the menopause, it's been worse, some of it caused by the night sweats, although they aren't as bad lately so maybe those symptoms are easing off a bit now.