Obviously an earlier post of mine didn't sit comfortably with someone that touched a nerve or pricked the conscience.   Never mind! 😄

If you do mean me Mitzi, my apologies but I do have a life I do have to get on with outside of Ebay and after answering stevie, I had to go out and have only just logged back in.

No nerves  touched or conscience pricked although I did find your post a tad hostile, but then we do all have a right to our opinions so I leave it at that.:-)

I.wanna

Aargh! You are doing it again; you are turning every actual event and heinous crime and putting into a fantasy land.

Sorry, but IMHO my posts are relevant because these heinous crime are with us because of an occurance concerning the opossition to God.

Of course if you yourself feel it is fantansy then that is your opinion - not mine.

We are talking about Jimmy Saville and other pedophiles not GOD!

Re: the above.:-)

Take this scenario.  A child has been tortured, abused and raped but not killed.  That child is 6 years old.

How do you comfort that child and explain to them what has happened and why.

If we were to follow your rationale, then the parents, doctors, policemen and women, social services, counselors and members of the legal profession would say:

“The man that did this to you is not responsible for his actions, it is not his fault, it was the work of the DEVIL and his demons but be assured that if he says sorry to his god, he will be forgiven so that when he dies he will be brought back to life again”.

Do you know how that sounds!

Is that going to give comfort to the child or scare the living daylights out of them?

Of course they wouldn't, as I explained to Stevie, these people have a very important job to do and are in those jobs because life on earth at the present time is in need of them. I have never said people in general are not responsible for their own actions of course they are, the law of the land uses the 10 commandments as a basis for their laws of right and wrong for which there are consequences and penalties. All I have said is Satan is at fault here as he is the one influencing the weaker sinful people, but these people in most cases are choosing for themselves how they act. Some do have mental health problems and cannot be held responsible, but in general a person chooses to commit crime and wrong doing, most know right from wrong.

As for the child themselves, they should be treated with love, support, yes explain to them what has happened, that the person that has done this terrible thing has done something very wrong. You help to heal that childs wounds and support them and try to give them the confidence to grow up and enjoy life as normal. You do have to make them realise too, it is not their fault, there was nothing wrong with them.

Jehovah though, through his teachings and promises goes further than that, he can assure every single person that has suffered at the hands of anyone with a heinous addiction or crime or whatever you like to call it that it  their suffering is only a temporary,  that he Jehovah, will restore happiness back to them and heal their pain, and that it will last till time indifinate, NO OTHER PERSON OR HEAD OF WORLDLY RELIGIONS AND GOVERNMENTS CAN PROMISE THAT AND FULLFIL IT. And you say God is bad:_|

There is absolutely no need to scare the living daylights out of that child as long as they are treated with love and taught things in a way they can understand. IMHO just to tell them what has happened to them and leave them with that wound till they die, telling them there is nothing else does more damage to them. They will have many more questions that will need truthful answers to, like why me, why do people do this to other people, etc etc.

You said “The Jimmy Savilles and the like have died so, they have paid the penalty for sin which is death.”

I say, What?!  There are two known facts in life, you are born and you die anything in between that is a bonus and any after that is an unknown quantity.

Just because you don't wish to accept that there is more to life than just living for a few years then dying does not mean that there is no life everlasting being promised.

Forgive me but,  I am going as far now to say, you yourself Mitzi by openly opposing and belittling the wonderous information of how Jehovah will give back righteous everlasting pain and suffering free life to those who would wish it, may very well frighten people off and prevent them from learning how to  attain it, causing them to loose their life.

Are you saying that death is the penalty for living and the reason we die is because we have sinned!

No, that is not what I am saying at all, and if you had read my all my previous posts before in at other times when we have discussed this you would see my opinions don't change I always state the same.

Jehovah gave us life which was meant to be perfect sin free for ever.

Through Adam and Eve sin entered into the world and because death is the wages of sin then we all will die because of sin. Although you are looking at people commiting bad things as sinfull Jehovah is stating that all have inherited a sinful imperfect state, it is a slightly different way of explaining sin.

What Jehovah has done (by sending us Jesus Christ) although in an imperfect inherited sinful state, given us all the chance to chose for ouselves whether we want to be obedient to him or not and removing a most definate death, but putting us back into the same position Adam and Eve had of choosing to be obedient or not. ie, before Adam and Eve disobeyed, death was not a thing anyone had looming over them after only a few years of life.

I have tried my best there Mitzi to put it in writing so you can understand it even if you don't find it believable, that is my fault of not being better at explaining things though, not any fault with what I am trying to put across.

You may be a nice person but to be honest I find you quite scary and dangerous.

I really don't see why I could be any threat to anyone TBH, I live by  the good principles required by Jehovah, Loving my neighbour, honesty, mildtempered, I don't kill, I don't steal, I am law abiding, I respect my fellow man, I don't abuse people in anyway like the sick people of society, I don't get drunk, I don't use drugs, I am clean living, I don't swear, I don't smoke, I do what I can when I can for my family, I taught my children the same.

How is that dangerous or a threat to anyone?:-x

I will be interested to read the answer to Stevie's question.

I wonder what you thought?:-)