Nothing to do with "Faint heart",  I've made my views abundantly clear.  Obay should cancel this whole thing, go back to how it was before they started mucking it about, then start the conversation about what needs changing (and grow enough community spirit to perhaps explain why).

    Obay managers might even benefit from the experience of treating another part of their community with the respect due to sensible adults, rather than treating them like serfs to be ordered about from on high.   Who knows,  opening a dialogue with some people outside their own bubble might even start them on the learning curve to being able to write their Announcements with clarity, not in ambiguous pidgen English that serves to cause so much of the confusion on the boards.

    Is that a believable outcome, even to me??  I very much doubt it.  The management of ebay has become too used to giving orders that must be obeyed.  Too self-satisfied busying around the site "improving" things that worked better before they started.

    A better aphorism for the situation we find ourselves in would, I think, have nothing to do with winning anything and more to do with heads and brick walls.   Best of luck trying to push-back, for me the (temporary?) gains are not worth the head-ache.