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12-10-2019 10:43 PM
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13-10-2019 10:07 AM
Ah-ha, now it's coming out, some of those "protesters" are being paid up to £800 A WEEK to take part. So much for selflessly giving up their time?
- Activists have been paid more than £200,000 since the start of the scheme;
- The cost of the payments is increasing by 'at least £40,000 a month';
- Activists are targeting 'high net worth individuals' for more funds;
- They spent £5,000 on a camping tour of Europe for key members.
It's life Jim, but not as WE know it.
Live long and prosper.
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13-10-2019 4:22 PM
Not sure what the problem is?
The Daily Mail call it "being paid" XR call it "expenses".
Unions pay strikers and have done so for generations, all sorts of groups from Girl Guides to politicians to schools pay out expenses for voluntary work carried out.
Is it because the Daily Mail don't like the aims of XR as a group that they are misrepresenting the payment of expenses.
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13-10-2019 4:45 PM
Might answer some of the daily mails attacks:
"These attacks depressingly tend to come hard and fast as any attempt to address the status quo of the worsening climate and ecological – and democractic – emergency emerges. This doesn’t just happen to Extinction Rebellion, but to any group and people that want change. We’ll take it as a compliment." ![]()
We are many,They are few
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13-10-2019 5:18 PM
Most national and international protest groups have employees as well as paying out expenses.
Does this make organisations such as Amnesty International or Greenpeace and their aims and 'protests' any less legitimate?
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13-10-2019 10:04 PM
Oh come on, those scoundrels wouldn't be doing it if they weren't creaming it, financed by those fools who have made "easy come, easy go" money.
It's life Jim, but not as WE know it.
Live long and prosper.
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14-10-2019 6:08 AM
Which scoundrels are you referring to?
You wouldn't get me out in the cold and the wet, gluing myself to buildings and such, protesting about a cause I didn't actually believe in for £400 a week!
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14-10-2019 9:42 AM
Some of them would do anything for a few quid buckshee.
It's life Jim, but not as WE know it.
Live long and prosper.
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14-10-2019 9:55 PM
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20-10-2019 2:03 AM
I happen to believe that climate warming is exacerbated by human activity and, as a scientist during my career, I have believed the science for 30 years. I'm not convinced that XR have entirely the right approach to gain public support but I think something has to change and we need to wake up to it. To depict the protesters as scoundrels and troublemakers simply exploiting expenses from XR is inaccurate IMO.
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20-10-2019 9:46 AM
Ah yes, the scoundrels? Whilst what you say about some of the "protesters" is true, the demonstrations are being overtaken by the scoundrels who just want to cause trouble. It wouldn't matter to them what the cause is, they'd be there causing obstructions etc. Given a very small chance (not even half a chance) and they'd be there causing damage, destruction and looting.
As I've said before, the scoundrels are really nasty, jealous types who resent anyone with a few quid, they resent "the establishment", they resent Law and Order and really, the only thing they do like is picking up free money!
It's life Jim, but not as WE know it.
Live long and prosper.
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20-10-2019 10:22 AM
My opinion is based on what I have been told by people I know who were stewards there during the first week as well as film footage which shows people of all ages obstructing but not being aggressive.
The Animal Rebellion lot tend to be more militant, I would agree, but I see no evidence that most of XR are comprised of nasty types that you describe. In fact much criticism of the 'movement' in the media has been that it is too white and too middle class. That is, People who have a few quid themselves. Their motivation for making the effort to go to London and protest is not to collect expenses.
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20-10-2019 10:51 AM
We each have our respective opinion? However, although there hasn't been any "rioting or looting" yet, it's only a matter of time before that happens.
I'll agree the "animal rights" lot are worse. A long while back they were reponsible for releasing loads of Mink and look what's happened with those? They recently broke in to a Pheasant farm and were responsible for the deaths of thousands of young birds.
I don't know what the ER lot think they can achieve by doing what they're doing, as far as I can see they're increasing the very thing they're "protesting" about. When they get nowhere with that line, we'll see how far they're prepared to go.
It's life Jim, but not as WE know it.
Live long and prosper.
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20-10-2019 12:39 PM