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@elephantsdodaintydancing wrote:

@lambsy_uk I feel you are deliberately trying to wind up us animal lovers.  I refuse to get into a debate with you but I must admit to being slightly puzzled as to why you are posting on this thread when clearly you have no regard for animals? 

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I guess when you have a passion for something; coming across someone with little regard can wind you up; I just want to let others know that we don't all feel the same way. We don't all have the same regard for dogs, we don't all agree with the same methods of control or training, but this does not make any of us better people; just different people with different opinions.

Some dog lovers find the use of these collars upsetting while others are upset by the condemnation they receive for using them. I do have a regard for animals; I don't wish pain and suffering upon them but I do see a need for training and control. I also have a regard for my fellow Human and will not condemn and demonise people for using methods some find questionable,

As for posting on this thread' the idea is to discuss things and appreciate different points of view; ithis is not merely a place to be seen to vent your spleen at what some deem to be some kind of attrocity. I hold a different point of view which is what discussion is about!

Merry Christmas