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@upthecreekyetagain wrote:

Not sure that Obama's "back of the queue" is a threat, sounds more like reality - I can't see the US, China, Brazil or India falling over themselves to trade with the UK whilst they are negotiating trade deals with the EU.

 

I'm sure they would deal with us if we leave but we are kidding ourselves if we think we'd be a priority, (front of the queue).

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namely Germany and France, because looking at the other member states they are not exactly solid trading partners to the US.

wait till albania, turkey,montenegro, bosnia and serbia join, it will add little to the commercial strength of the EU (as in a majority of existing members), Just more sqabbling and years to get the simplist of things done. The EU will never reform  itself and continue to be come an obese bureaucratic nightmare, oops forgot it already is.

Question time the other night paddy ashdown saying how close our US allies were and how they came to our rescue in 2 world wars- No Disrespect to those who fought and died in those wars, but politically they were glorified arms dealers, coming to help 2 to  3years late in each great war, pushed in by direct attacks on themselves, including Germany declaring war on them in the second.

A poll of 10000 71% were basically put off by obamas comments leaving the EU would see us at the back of the que, 23% agreed.

Maybe some will see the UK as arrogant for leaving, though something has to give, maybe its the shake up the  eu needs, but i cant see there being any reform, Germanys in control with France as their lapdog, maybe leaving will see the disintegration of what has become unfit for purpose.