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@cee-dee wrote:

OK.

 

Now, when are you going to properly enter a discussion and make some attempt to refute points made by others and how they relate to what you're involved with?

 

Do you deny that many of the points made are part of discovered history and if so, will you explain how they differ from what you believe to be so?

 

I realise you don't have to but you entered the thread and reminded us of your belief so you saying simply that what you believe is "right" isn't in any way good enough to disprove or discredit known facts.

 

Perhaps also, you'd tell us all what you think your "elders" (is that the right word?) would say if they entered a discussion such as this? Would they calmly deal with things point by point or dismiss it all as nonsense written by a bunch of heathens and not have any truck with it because (some of us) are not of your sort and shun us?

 

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Hi CD,

I have done many times entered a discussion and refuted in the best way I know how.......lol only to have others call out what I say to be stupid or not true or what ever.... I can handle that, as it is just you and others not choosing to believe it.

As for history, there are many things in history where our views are different I don't think I deny history but I would differ  in some of the conclusions you would come to because of the history. (not really sure whether you get what I am trying to say there) I know I am not so articulate with the English language as some lol. Where history is concerned there is always a good explanation behind facts and conclusions it is down to us individually to either dismiss or be convinced.

CD,  yes the older men who take the lead are called Elders, and if they were here and you were happy to have a discussion they would try to the best of there ability and knowledge to calmly deal with things point by point, You would never be shunned, I never shun, what I do have to admit to is with some people I choose not to associate because of our differences in beliefs, but I really do think that is hunning, they are still human beings and entitled to be respected as such. I would say you do the same, you won't associate with certain people for whatever reason but I don't think you are shunning, just choosing your asscociates wisely so to speak.