Yep I will have a go in papko planet. But one more thing needs addressing first.......do ill people get left for dead here ? or do we help them.

off course we help sick people , and treat them in our hopsitals genuinely sick though if you gota "bad back " , or "depresion " , its off to the fields with you , or the refuse dumps , picking through the rubbish , and recycling I was watching a program on it in Nigeria , and all the poor , worked together in a cooperative , and recycled the rubbish together , they then sold the recycled goods to traders , and thye split the profits

Its a far nobler way to earn a living , for you are not a burden on the state , you have consciously decided to do your bit and cover your own costs

All druggies , Alcos , , mental health problems , could work their and just get by fine , afterall other countries have the same problems as us , it seems only in Britian . that being useless and designed to fail , gets you a regular weekly payment , your rent paid , and your heating to boot what is the incentive to work , if you get so much for being a slob .?

On Planet Papko , we know how to deal with malingerers