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@fallen-archie wrote:
Yes it was murder it was horrific, yet I cannot help thinking about how many dis functional young people are out there. There was another murder which involved a young lass who was a goth, she was targeted because of the way she dressed. Then there were the youthsinWarrington who killed a guy for protecting his property, Ultimately all are murderers but why, what is it I their make up that drives them to do such acts? Are we responsible I any way, too tolerant or too intolerant, I wish I knew.

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Well...what drives good people to do good?  And what drives evil people to do evil? 

Well... there's your answer...  GOOD  and  BAD.

It seems If your lucky you are evil here in the UK, when you reflect on some of the sentences given.

If you are unlucky you might be in a country that has Sharia law.  (well that's arguable on some cases like these two).

When we forgive evil we do not excuse it, we do not tolerate it, we do not smother it. We look evil full in the face, call it what it is HORROR !

There is a common teaching among Christians that claims we are to offer unconditional forgiveness to all who do evil against us. That has become patently obvious by some comments on this thread. Sorry, but some are NOT forgivable IMO.

Remembering the James Bulger case, when those two 10 year-olds took that 2 year-old and smashed him to death with what ever they could find is enough for me (just pause and picture that scene and the screams of what was no more than a baby) to know that pure EVIL exists.  No such thing as a Devil. or God.  It's either there or not when we are born, or even before IMO.