Yes it was murder it was horrific, yet I cannot help thinking about how many dis functional young people are out there. There was another murder which involved a young lass who was a goth, she was targeted because of the way she dressed. Then there were the youths in Warrington who killed a guy for protecting his property, Ultimately all are murderers but why, what is it I their make up that drives them to do such acts? Are we responsible I any way, too tolerant or too intolerant, I wish I knew.