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@evoman3957 wrote:

Can you imagine what state the Roads would be in, if the driving test involved just a stop and go pedal and paying attention to what colour the traffic lights were...........and for £48,000 + per year. London Bus drivers get about £18,000 + per year and they don't run on rails, they've got pedestrians stepping out in front of them; cars pulling out in front of them ,cutting them up and parking in places that sometimes make it impossible to get the Bus through. Some people ( more it seems each day ) just make me sick !

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Yes, EVO.  That's partly why I started this thread.  And they said their management are treating them badly and bullying them  ....     

How badly are the Bus drivers, Nurses and others with even less than half of the wages the tube drivers are getting being treated?

#2, Yes, LINDA. But it is inevitable that full automation will come.  And so it should if it stops us being held to ransom. So many in most cases only wanted to get to and from work?  How daft is it to aggravate their wage payers over and over again?  Christmas after Christmas too was partly how they got to this wage if I remember rightly?  

Do you ever think someone is watching and waiting the whole time?  I do ..... ........: