Re: Does the UK want another WAR.

tommy.irene · ‎09-09-2013

Syria 'welcomes' Russian proposal on chemical weapons

Doug Stanglin, USA TODAY1:33 p.m. EDT September 9, 2013

The Russian foreign minister says Moscow will push Syria to place its chemical weapons under international control.

(Photo: Ivan Sekretarev, AP)

The Syrian government said Monday it welcomes a proposal by Russia to avoid a U.S.military strike in Damascus by placing its chemical weapons under international monitors.

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joe_bloggs* · ‎09-09-2013

A chemical attack may be launched on Israel by Syrian rebels from government-controlled territories as a "major provocation", a number of sources have told RT.

http://rt.com/news/syria-rebels-chemical-attack-israel-618/

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merehazle · ‎09-09-2013

So Cameron calls it a ''distraction'' if Russia makes Syria get rid of CW.

People rightly despise that psychopath Blair, but this lightweight bag of c###p makes my blood boil.

Now you know why he once said ''hug a hoodie'' completely out of touch with reality. And he's PRIME MINISTER!!!!!

No way any attack will solve this problem, and he insults Russia's effort which could.

Yes make friends for us Cameron.

tommy.irene · ‎09-09-2013

The USA..FRANCE and UK dont want peace in Syria// but the people do

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lhasa.two · ‎09-09-2013

@tommy.irene wrote:
The USA..FRANCE and UK dont want peace in Syria// but the people do

I would disagree with that as more than anything they want peace. Can you imagine the repercussions of an air strike for Israel, Lebanon and other neighbouring countries? It doesn't bare thinking about. Many of the Syrian people just want regime change to lead them towards a more democratic environment, after so many years of repression. Egypt has to be a lesson here on how they achieve that.

It was known that behind the scenes talks were taking place between the Russians and the Americans even if Putin and Obama were not openly in agreement. This latest suggestion of an International safekeeping of the chemical weapons provides a volte-face for both countries and gives them an out, especially for Obama. He can still go for the vote but I think he needs to take heed of this latest development and go for it as the most pragmatic solution, if it can be organised quickly.

Apparently there are chemical weapons hidden at around 50 sites in Syria so how on earth would US strikes find them all?! Air strikes are not the answer if it's not known where all these chemicals are. It is vaguely possible that Assad is actually telling the truth (doubtful I know but...) when he says the chemical attack was not made by his forces but by one of the Jihadist groups. With so many locations it's possible they came across them and used them, as they have very little regard for the Syrian population.

John Kerry said it's been like a "Munich moment" but it reminds me more of Kennedy and the "Cuban missile crisis", now that was scary...

tommy.irene · ‎10-09-2013

Obama says Russian Syria proposal could be a breakthrough

Doug Stanglin and Aamer Madhani, USA TODAY8:44 p.m. EDT September 9, 2013

(Photo: CBS via Getty Images)

STORY HIGHLIGHTS

Syrian official does not say whether his country will agree to the idea
White House says it will 'want to take a hard look' at the proposal
Syria is one of only 5 countries that have not signed a treaty banning chemical weapons

President Obama said on Monday he would "run to ground" a proposal outlined by the Russians that would wrest control of chemical weapons from Syria and would potentially head off a U.S. military strike against the Bashar Assad regime.

Obama, who conducted a half dozen television interviews on Monday afternoon to try to gin up support for his call for military action against Syria said he would "absolutely" put off a punitive strike if Assad gave up his weapons.

"It's possible if it's real," Obama told CNN in an interview that aired Monday of the possible breakthrough on the Syria crisis. "And, you know, I think it's certainly a positive development when, the Russians and the Syrians both make gestures toward dealing with these chemical weapons. This is what we've been asking for not just over the last week or the last month, but for the last couple of years."

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merehazle · ‎10-09-2013

It's quite extraordinary that Obama wanted war & didn't demand that Assad give up his CW first or even suggest a diplomatic solution before going in with rockets & missiles.

At least Britain knows what to do next time an American President says he wants to bomb another country. Be very wary.

Parliament made the right choice, the British people knew what to do, Farage and UKIP were spot on from the beginning.

As for Liblabcon they were as bad as Obama. War is far too important for national leaders to make the decision.

Piano!!! how much?

tommy.irene · ‎10-09-2013

@merehazle wrote:

It's quite extraordinary that Obama wanted war & didn't demand that Assad give up his CW first or even suggest a diplomatic solution before going in with rockets & missiles.

At least Britain knows what to do next time an American President says he wants to bomb another country. Be very wary.

Parliament made the right choice, the British people knew what to do, Farage and UKIP were spot on from the beginning.

As for Liblabcon they were as bad as Obama. War is far too important for national leaders to make the decision.

Piano!!! how much?

The USA dont want another WAR..The vote is against him.. so he will try anything to save face.. France is keeping quiet..

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merehazle · ‎11-09-2013

IF... IF... IF...

If the Russian plan comes off will they give a peace prize to Putin? And even if they don't people in Europe will certainly note that the leader who spoke for their interest in peace and tried to do something for peace was Putin. Not any of the US dogs bodies who actually govern Europe for their US masters,

Wasn't a similar ploy used in Iraq? I seem to remember Sadaam being told to allow unfettered access by UN weapons inspectors at the 11th hour. Though he complied with the demands and jumped through all the hoops, in the end the war went ahead. The US hawks will be working to make sure peace has no chance. So don't count your chickens it's one hell of a mess out there.

I'm opposed to Western intervention in the Mid East in any form. It only makes matters worse. So, I'am grateful that the dumb luck has shown it's dopey grinning face. Dumb luck could have been achieved weeks ago by talking to the Russians at the UN - they are the one's with the only credible suggestions!!!

tommy.irene · ‎12-09-2013

National Security

U.S. weapons reaching Syrian rebels

SALAH AL-ASHKAR/AFP/Getty Images - An opposition fighter fires a rocket propelled grenade during clashes with regime forces. The United States is shipping arms and new types of nonlethal gear to rebels, according to U.S. officials.

By Ernesto Londoño and Greg Miller, Thursday, September 12, 2:30 AM E-mail the writers

The CIA has begun delivering weapons to rebels in Syria, ending months of delay in lethal aid that had been promised by the Obama administration, according to U.S. officials and Syrian figures. The shipments began streaming into the country over the past two weeks, along with separate deliveries by the State Department of vehicles and other gear — a flow of material that marks a major escalation of the U.S. role in Syria’s civil war.

The arms shipments, which are limited to light weapons and other munitions that can be tracked, began arriving in Syria at a moment of heightened tensions over threats by President Obama to order missile strikes to punish the regime of Bashar al-Assad for his alleged use of chemical weapons in a deadly attack near Damascus last month.

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blackburn_stevie · ‎12-09-2013

mere ..... I must have missed that. What did Farage say about Syria right at the start of all this trouble?

That's a serious question, by the way.

Cheers,

Stevie

tommy.irene · ‎12-09-2013

I cant understand the USA arming the rebels..

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joe_bloggs* · ‎12-09-2013

A good article about Syria on Oil Price.com:

http://oilprice.com/Geopolitics/Middle-East/Syrian-Chemical-Attack-More-Evidence-Only-Leads-to-More-...

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merehazle · ‎12-09-2013

Yes it's a serious matter. Hello Steve, he says: ''Military strikes won't make anything better''

And quite a bit more on the matter if you google Nigel Farage on the Syrian Crisis.

Or on BBC NEWS MIDDLE EAST though as you can see the content doesn't seem to be working.

News and comments are changing all the time of course but good luck!

joe_bloggs* · ‎13-09-2013

Let's put this in context. Most of the Syrian “rebels” are Al Qaeda. The U.S. government has designated these guys as terrorists.

Things are getting better, not worse: Al Qaeda is gaining more and more power among the rebels.

And the U.S., Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Israel have been backing these guys for years.

Indeed, we’ve long known that most of the weapons we’re shipping to Syria are ending up in the hands of Al Qaeda.

And they apparently have chemical weapons.

We're arming the same guys who are threatening to blow us up.

This is even stupider than creating Al Qaeda in the first place to fight the Russians in Afghanistan. At least then, they didn't threaten America while we were arming them.

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-09-13/head-syrian-rebels-calls-terrorist-attacks-america

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tommy.irene · ‎19-09-2013

Why has the little nation of Qatar spent 3 billion dollars to support the rebels in Syria? Could it be because Qatar is the largest exporter of liquid natural gas in the world and Assad won't let them build a natural gas pipeline through Syria? Of course. Qatar wants to install a puppet regime in Syria that will allow them to build a pipeline which will enable them to sell lots and lots of natural gas to Europe. Why is Saudi Arabia spending huge amounts of money to help the rebels and why has Saudi Prince Bandar bin Sultan been "jetting from covert command centers near the Syrian front lines to the Élysée Palace in Paris and the Kremlin in Moscow, seeking to undermine the Assad regime"? Well, it turns out that Saudi Arabia intends to install their own puppet government in Syria which will allow the Saudis to control the flow of energy through the region. On the other side, Russia very much prefers the Assad regime for a whole bunch of reasons. One of those reasons is that Assad is helping to block the flow of natural gas out of the Persian Gulf into Europe, thus ensuring higher profits for Gazprom. Now the United States is getting directly involved in the conflict. If the U.S. is successful in getting rid of the Assad regime, it will be good for either the Saudis or Qatar (and possibly for both), and it will be really bad for Russia. Read more: http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/09/coming-war-syria-natural-gas-pipeline/#ixzz2fLVSmqmG
Read more at http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/09/coming-war-syria-natural-gas-pipeline/#prhRkTdUfE3lSISJ.99

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merehazle · ‎21-09-2013

Well who's right? And who's wrong?

As bad as Assad is reputed to be (if you believe Brit and Yank political rhetoric) he runs a stable secular state, even with a nod to democracy, which would be far from the case if the rebels/terrorists prevail.

Assad also protects the Christians and other minority faiths, unlike the Islamists who would exterminate them, as they are already doing so.

The British and American people are not myopic. They decided to exercise their democratic right not to be involved in another Middle East war, particularly on the side of barbaric AQ supporting radical Islamists.

Well I thought I would PUTIN this picture of PUTIN'S dog. And the owners come to look like their dogs. Amazingly so

tommy.irene · ‎21-09-2013

So which is it Mr. President? White House calls for regime change in Syria for the seventh time in six months, but has said five times that the US isn't plotting his downfall

A top White House deputy argued Friday for a resolution in Syria 'that removes Assad from power'
But at least five times this year, administration officials have insisted they're not working for regime change
A dozen official statements on the question have been nearly 50-50
A reporter asked the State Department on Tuesday whether Bashar al-Assad has bought himself 'job security' by agreeing to help dismantle his chemical weapons

20 September 2013

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2427411/So-Mr-President-White-House-calls-regime-change-Syri...

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