irene dont worry about your presents you and mally are getting the same as last year and its already in the post----the snow has started to thaw in cold SW19 and its all slushy and grey so with a bit of luck thats the end of the snow for this year-all shopping is done i treated myself this year for christmas dinner iam having cross and blackwell beans on toast instead of the shops own brand and hovies bread and real butter how the other half live looking forward to that yum yum--enjoy the film and popcorn tomorrow take care and keep moaning:^O