OK, in or out?

[cee-dee]

How about an RT poll?

No reasons, no argument, no debate just a straightforward IN or OUT.

Me? OUT.

[baybizz]

The only person I would trust to lead the Brexit team in the out arrangements is Nigel Farage - if it wasn't for him there would have been no referendum. I don't entirely trust Johnson or Gove to push the thing through without finding some way of wriggling out of Brexit through "unforeseen circumstances".

All the talk is of Brexit taking two years to sort out. Rubbish. Just tell them we are no longer members of your wretched EU club - Goodbye. 

And why is everybody so confidently assuming the EU will still be in existence in two years' time... it's a fatally unstable institution, and it could implode at any time...

[joe_bloggs*]

[baybizz]

 German Out of the EU Poster

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We're Reclaiming OUR Star!

Out of the Euro

Out of this EU

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You can read the rest of it for yourself!

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[artful_dodgings]

Yes it was lovely to see the Old Guard being wheeled out, in the shape of Tarzan. Just like a clip from 'Where Are They Now'.

[artful_dodgings]

So, Jeremy Hunt has crept out from behind his NHS barricade, and called for a second referendum...mmmm ?

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/684024/Jeremy-Hunt-Britain-hold-SECOND-EU-referendum-Brexit-b...

[cee-dee]

I see the President of the European Council has rejected a meeting with Noxious Nichola and also that Scotland won't get an automatic entry to the EU when Britain leaves.

I think she's got ideas above her station? Delusions of grandeur?

[astrologica]

I was very impressed this afternoon with Jacob Rees Mogg in an interview on TV. He was very calm, measured and dignified. An ideal Prime Minister I thought. He is supporting Boris at the moment, but who knows......some time in the future?

[upthecreekyetagain]

When I see the list of groups in Europe supporting/congratulating the UK on their exit from Europe I start to get worried.  Not worried about whether or not such support may or may not ultimately lead to the breakup of the EU but the growth of a culture of hate that it encourages and the triumphalism that is being demonstrated by those on the right.

Here in the UK  if anything the referendum has demonstrated that there is a clear split of views within the population - a split which is widening as those supporting the result of the referendum mock, insult and generally denigrate those who don't share their joy at the result.

[cee-dee]

Those of whom you speak regarding the result of the referendum are of the same ilk who make personal remarks about posters on forums like this one.

The "proper" way to go on is surely to argue the points raised and not make any denigrating remarks about the posters?

Those who make such remarks are running out of legitimate comments so resort to abusing others sharing differing views?

[mikes*corvettes]

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@upthecreekyetagain wrote:

Here in the UK  if anything the referendum has demonstrated that there is a clear split of views within the population - a split which is widening as those supporting the result of the referendum mock, insult and generally denigrate those who don't share their joy at the result.

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Ask yourself why that is.

It doesn't have anything to do with the fact that the losers instead of abiding with the result, are starting fake petitions and demonstrations to over rule what is a democratic decision made by the nation.

[joe_bloggs*]

Theres no doubt that this referendum has brought out the latent racist tendencies in some people as witnessed by the horrific attacks on migrants and some of their businesses during and after the referendum,these attacks being condemned by most politicians which is right,but i remember that old saying,If you dump a load of C^ap on your step,you can't disown the flies

[mikes*corvettes]

It's all to orchestrated how do we know it's not a sector of the remain camp doing it.

Then posting about it on social media to gather momentum for another referendum.

It's not the first time tactics like this have been used.

[celticthebhoys585]

Acht behave, listen to yourself.

[upthecreekyetagain]

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@mikes*corvettes wrote:

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@upthecreekyetagain wrote:

Here in the UK  if anything the referendum has demonstrated that there is a clear split of views within the population - a split which is widening as those supporting the result of the referendum mock, insult and generally denigrate those who don't share their joy at the result.

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Ask yourself why that is.

It doesn't have anything to do with the fact that the losers instead of abiding with the result, are starting fake petitions and demonstrations to over rule what is a democratic decision made by the nation.

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As far as I am aware most, if not all, of the main protagonists for the remain campaign have urged the electorate to accept the majority decision including DC who had resigned.  

Who are these 'losers', (another example of denigrating those who have different views?) - you refer to fake petitions, well if they are fake then they obviously don't represent the view of the 'losers' but rather a small group of people - if they represent a large number of 'losers' then the petitions aren't fake - you can't have it both ways.

[joe_bloggs*]

I didn't say it was the leave camp orchestrating these attacks,

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/28/uk-faith-leaders-unite-in-condemning-post-referendum...

But it is partly due to the rhetoric the leave camp promoted as also witnessed in the London mayoral elections that emboldened the closet racists to come into the open thinking they'd been tipped the wink by leading politicians,and as far as the attacks being orchestrated by the remain camp,i think thats straying into conspiracy theories....

[mikes*corvettes]

Losers= the side that lost.


Please don't try and twist my words and try to make them seem derogatory.


But you knew that already.

[astrologica]

Accepting the majority decision? You mean like Jeremy Hunt, who was on TV yesterday suggesting that we could leave implementing article 50 until 2020, and then suggesting that we have another referendum to overturn the decision? Bad losers.

[upthecreekyetagain]

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@mikes*corvettes wrote:

Losers= the side that lost.


Please don't try and twist my words and try to make them seem derogatory.


But you knew that already.

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As you may have guessed I voted to remain - however as far as I can see the result will make little difference to me on a personal level.

The referendum wasn't a competition with winners and losers but a choice as to how the electorate felt the country should go forward in the future.  The idea that those who voted to remain have 'lost' or that those who voted leave have 'won' is a demonstration, (albeit unconsciously), of triumphalism at a time when the responsible attitude is to act in a way that will see the decision, made by the majority, implemented in a manner that will benefit all of the people.

Farage's 'you're not laughing now' speech is a perfect example of a prevalent attitude amongst many 'Brexiters' which is not in the least bit helpful in getting the best for this country - mocking the very people that you now have to negotiate with, to get the best possible outcome for the UK, doesn't strike me as sensible - akin to calling people losers.

Those who are confident that exiting the EU was the best decision surely consider all of the electorate winners.

[fallen-archie]

I'm a loser too😯 Or should I say was not in favour of the outcome However I accept it as a democratic decision, the country has spoken.
My hope now is that we make it work for the majority. Talk of winners and losers just widens division and smacks of the kind of political response one gets from devout ideologists who have no respect for the opinion of others.
As Cameron said earlier don't expect to get something for nothing, there is a price to pay to go it alone or should I say to retain sovereignty.
Let us consider the concerns of the many rather than the few and make sure that in chasing an ideal we do not harm the prospects of the next generation.

[artful_dodgings]

upthecreekyyetagain wrote:

'Farage's 'you're not laughing now' speech is a perfect example of a prevalent attitude amongst many 'Brexiters' which is not in the least bit helpful in getting the best for this country - mocking the very people that you now have to negotiate with, to get the best possible outcome for the UK, doesn't strike me as sensible - akin to calling people losers'.

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Well I thought Nigel Farage's speech was barnstorming triumph. Good for him. And I certainly wouldn't begrudge him his moment of glory, for something that he's fought tooth and nail for since 1999.

For those who haven't seen it, here it is below:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/28/not-laughing-now-are-you-brussels-attacks-nigel-farage-ov...