OK, in or out?

[cee-dee]

How about an RT poll?

No reasons, no argument, no debate just a straightforward IN or OUT.

Me? OUT.

[artful_dodgings]

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@cee-dee wrote:

I see the President of the European Council has rejected a meeting with Noxious Nichola and also that Scotland won't get an automatic entry to the EU when Britain leaves.

I think she's got ideas above her station? Delusions of grandeur?

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To that you can add 'megolomaniac'. Also applies to her joined-at-the-hip partner, Alex 'The Fat Controler' Salmond. An odious and invidious individual.

[evoman3957]

Good grief, all these post that have been started on here; about the good old days on the boards and where have all the posters gone. Then all the real Chameleons & stirrers, chirp up with their Rhetoric about people on here who have digs at other posters and get personal. Then, in the case of Farage, he's criticized ( having been laughed at for 17 YEARS in the EU assembly ) for turning the tables and saying " Well you're not laughing now ".............well I don't blame him......it's called come uppance and if more people got it, maybe some lessons would be learnt.  As far as posters are concerned, I'd rather get what you see and see what you get.......they are what they are and sometimes transparency ( warts and all ) is better and apparantly much rarer than the Chameleons and stirrers that these sorts of places seem to attract..........I would have thought ( judging by the amount of complaints ) that you'd all had enough of those sorts of people, in your government and lives outside of these boards...........ask NO MORE why people leave here when they do.

[mikes*corvettes]

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@fallen-archie wrote:
I'm a loser too😯 Or should I say was not in favour of the outcome

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You've taken it in the context that I wrote it.

The other day I misread one of his posts and posted a reply which was wrong and when pulled up about it I straight away was man enough and mature enough to apologise and not carry on trying to prove a non existant point.

[mikes*corvettes]

One thing that was very clear with that speech. was when Mr Farage pointed out that the EU had slipped the Lisbon Treaty in through the backdoor the amount of cheers that got.

[cee-dee]

Remember what I said at #682 about buying shares?

Look what's happened now?:-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36660133

[fallen-archie]

Amazing! Crystal Balls, Insider Knowledge or Old Moores? Go on tell us your secret 

[evoman3957]

It's like waching live telly isn't it, you can actually see the rich getting richer; at the expense of others..........as it's happening.

[fallen-archie]

Not sure I can see it with the clarity and foresight of CD. Do you think he once played Darren in Bewitched?

[evoman3957]

MMMMmmmm..................ask him if he can wiggle his nose.

[evoman3957]

JUST his nose..............this is a family forum.

[john.b74]

'My party is in peril, it faces an existential crisis': Tom Watson tells Corbyn he must go but as the Labour leader STILL refuses to quit, Angela Eagle prepares leadership bid

• Angela Eagle poised to announce leadership challenge at 3pm tomorrow
• Corbyn has been hit by around 60 resignations of front bench MPs
• He has lost overwhelmingly a confidence vote among all Labour MPs
• Ed Miliband and Harriet Harman today both told him to resign as leader 
• Corbyn has so far refused to resign as Labour leader despite the row   
• David Cameron told him to go in the national interest today amid coup
• Unions say leadership should only be questioned through proper channels

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3665760/For-heaven-s-sake-man-David-Cameron-tells-Corbyn-qui...
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I tried to post this comment earlier today but it didn't go through, it was being "moderated" whatever that means , so here it is again.

To say JC is unelectable is plain dumb no one is psychic. The Blairites want people to think he can't win an election when its the opposite they are panicking because he may just win. In that case they will lose all influence and control of the majority Blairite faction of the party.

They do not want to see JC in power and that is why they are mounting huge pressure on him to resign.

JC has already said he will put Tony Blair to account for his war crimes. The Chilcott enquiry is due in a week or so. This is a well placed strategy orchestrated by Blair, Campbell and Straw to try and oust JC from the LP hoping he would resign on his own, but that's not happening.

JC is staying firm because he knows he has a large mandate and he is not going anywhere because the people will re elect him again anyway. The membership is rising as I write and they're joining to support JC.

There were 10,000 people in parliament square the other day according to the police record. These people arrived within 24 hrs of being informed. Name any other leader the Blairites can put forward for a leadership challenge that can garner that much support in that short amount of time.

The shame of all this infighting is the impression it is putting on the British Public. They will lose faith in the LP and it could cost them the general election. The Blairites are the ones that are destroying the party not JC.

I think JC is right in staying firm, the Blairites are the ones who should concede to the will of its members.
I seriously think they want to jeopardise their own party so that their guru Tony Blair is not faced by JC in parliament and Tony Blair knows if he is confronted by JC in parliament that he is the only one capable and informed as much to inflict maximum damage and to hold him responsible for the calamity which is the Iraq war. He may not be able to get him thrown in the Hague but certainly shamed in front of the whole world.

I've come to the conclusion Tony Blair is willing to sabotage and destroy his own party with the help of his minions to save his skin.

[joe_bloggs*]

Well said! someone on another thread mentioned the politcal elites,and its so true both in the tory party and in labour,most of them seem to think they have a job for life,these so called rebels acting against a leader who was voted for by the members with the biggest majority ever.I think these rebels should do the honourable thing and just cross the floor to join the tories,because that is what they are "red tories" most of these rebels voted for the Iraq war,and has been said the chillcott report is due out soon.

The top priority for the political elite now is to make sure voters never get a choice the elite do not want,and Corbyn,the establishment and the elite certainly do not want.Most of these rebels are a million miles away from what ordinary working class voters want and stand for,as witnessed recently in Scotland,the vast majority of these rebels would vote to chuck the unemployed under a bus if they thought it would advance their careers.

If Corbyn is deposed, the people of England and Wales will be back to having a choice between two colours of tory,Let them put their choice for leader up and see how many votes they get.

Newsnight had a poll and the vast majority of constituency labour parties gave full backing to corbyn,we'll see how democratic these rebel MP's really are.

Frank Field's utter contempt for the people who elected him:

[cee-dee]

You're assuming those that "elected" Corbyn haven't changed their minds after seeing how he's performed.

The general public (not just Labour party "members") elected the Labour MPs and it's the MPs who have to work with "the leader" and if they have no confidence in his leadership, how are they supposed to work effectively with him?

When they were elected Corbyn wasn't "the leader" so he's had his chance to show them he was a worthy leader and now they've seen how he's performed they feel he's not leading effectively so on that score, he should do the decent thing and sling his hook!

[joe_bloggs*]

Well according to the news 13,000 people joined the labour party last week and most did so to support corbyn,so in a democratic leadership election it looks as though he might be returned with an even bigger majority,as i said the establishment want him out,mostly it wins but who knows this time they might listen to the people?

[cee-dee]

So this 13,000 are enough to tip the balance are they and how'd you know they're gonna support Corbyn?

Are the 13,000 genuine people or might they be of the same ilk as those who supposedly signed the 3 million petition?

[joe_bloggs*]

Well i would assume they were genuine,especially having to cough up a membership fee,as signing a petiton is free,and as i already said most of the new members gave their reason for joining to support corbyn,could be wrong but we'll see in the vote!

[artful_dodgings]

Oh my, oh my. Nasty Nicola, who's ambition is to tread the world stage in those Jimmy Choo stiletto heels, has just had a knock-back from the sprouts in Brussels.

What an absolute tragedy. Still, never mind, eh ?

[l111da]

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@joe_bloggs* wrote:

Well i would assume they were genuine,especially having to cough up a membership fee,as signing a petiton is free,and as i already said most of the new members gave their reason for joining to support corbyn,could be wrong but we'll see in the vote!

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I do tend to believe that whatever the party, Labour or Tory - the people have had enough of all of them! They all lie through their teeth, practically everyone of them are in politics for personal gain and just want to receive the adulation and worship of their minions! What have we seen from the labour party in recent years - Tony 'Teflon' Bliar - the biggest liar this country has ever seen, Gordon Brown - remember his comments about the lady in the car when he did not realise his mic was on? What a joke he was!

We have Vince Cable - 'Sir' what???? ... who was annoyed that we had a referendum, because the 'people' had the audacity to decide leave. - Cable you are a pratt!! Now have Corbyn, the only man to be truthful about immigration during the EU debate! Well it would not surprise me if there is not a degree of anarchy in all of this and the members (whoever they are?) are not just enjoying watching the labour party squirm. 

When the sad death of Jo Cox was announced I even heard two discussions about how unfair the electorate were to their hardworking MP's - I gasped at the time, had they forgotten the expenses scandal, had they forgotten the liberals who sold out their voters and would say anything and forget promises just to gain power? I understand libs are now promising a new referendum on the EU if they get elected! What??? Can you really trust any of them?

If you believe that you can trust them then you need your bumps looking at!

[calibra101]

Don't you have to be a member for 3 months before you have any voting rights or is that not the case?

[john.b74]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3670751/MPs-say-ll-use-ancient-law-impeach-Tony-Blair-mislea...