Homeless in Britain.

On Tuesday, on my way to a hospital appointment, I walked through the town in Newport, South Wales. Passing through I saw at least three homeless people , sleeping in the doorways of empty shops. I thought at the time that these poor people will now go further down the list of people needing help, as the country imports more 'child' migrants. When I returned home, there on my TV was the Welsh actor, Michael Sheen, yet another Luvvie, making his heart bleed for all to see, and telling us that Wales has not done enough to help , and that we should be taking more in. I made a mental note to never again watch anything that he has worked in. He should go to Newport and speak to those poor homeless people and help them sort out their problems.

Also...thinking about this child migrant issue, I remembered that during WW1 many brave young lads in this country added a few years to their age, in order to be able to enlist and fight for their country. And yet, we have these young fit men in Calais, knocking years off their ages in order to be able to try and get to the UK and have a nice easy, cushy safe life. What does that tell us?

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I wondered where the girls were, they are probably more in need of protection than young men purporting to be children.

 

One I saw claimed to be 16, if he was sxteen I'm miss world.

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I agree Miss World.  wink4pink 

 

Going back to the main topic of the OP, when you really look in to the background of some of those homeless people, you have to ask yourself "Would you really want them living next door to you?"

 

Some of them are already beyond help having developed a life of crime coupled with alcohol and drug use.

 

I don't know what the answer is but blanket "help" isn't.



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CeeDee..I agree that some of the people that are homeless have problems that can't be solved by just putting a roof over their heads, but surely the powers that be should be tackling the needy in our own population before inviting in more people that are going to need resources spent on them. They will need educating...most of them cannot speak English. They will need housing...they are supposed to have families here, but can their families afford to keep them without benefits? Having people sleeping in shop doorways shames us as a nation, and any help going should be given to them rather than 'child'migrants. The very least they should be offered is a warm bed at night...with no strings attached. I am aware that some of them would rather sleep on the street, but surely they can't all be beyond help.

Those  pictures of the 'children' from Calais just reinforced my feeling that we are being taken for fools.

Unless the people at the helm of this great ship get a grip and show some backbone, then we are heading for the rocks....if we are not already on them.

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Quite agree Miss World! When you look at all those migrants...it makes you wonder where their mothers, grandmothers, sisters etc are. They have left them behind to face all sorts of dangers. Nice men. But then..in their culture women are viewed as second class citizens and only there to be used.

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Your concerns cover many issues not just "The Homeless".

 

I don't know what the answer is to those "migrants" that have been here for years but still can't speak English. They've made absolutely no effort to integrate and those supposed "children" now being brought in will only perpetuate the issue.

 

If they were properly integrated, they'd be taking up "the argument" and stating their case but instead, they're more or less unaware (and don't care anyway) carrying on living as they would in their home country. That is, living in squalour, packing themselves in to properties and having umpteen children but whereas in their own country many of those wouldn't survive, they all do here thanks to more food, and improved medical facilities.

 

What to do with "The Homeless"? Bring back the workhouse?



It's life Jim, but not as WE know it.
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I don't usually want to write about anything with a politically leaning online, but I have to agree with this statement. Why have all those young men (and a few women) abandoned the people of their own country; they are the ones that fit and strong enough to help them. Yes it's dangerous, but then so was The Somme, so was Coventry in 1940, so was the Normandy landings and let's also add, so was Berlin in 1940 for the German people. Why do we want people with those scruples living here?

 

As a balance I think we should helping the young children. I can't bring myself to ignore them.

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I so agree that we should be bringing girls and young children over first. There was an item on TV yesterday about this issue of the ones being brought over being older than they claim, and one 'humanitarian' speaker defended the decision, and then added that there were young children and women and girls there waiting to be allowed here. If that is the case then surely they should have been first out..before the ones who have been allowed in, after lying and putting themselves first. Some of the decisions made by these 'officials' beggar belief.

We are being updated on TV about the ongoing battle for Mosul, but the brave fighters who are going into God knows what to reclaim that town are Iraqi and Peshmerga fighters. Obviously those chancers who want to come here to live have no shame or conscience about letting other brave men fight for their country for them. What would happen if we had to go to war.....would they want to go home then? As the previous poster said...do we really want people like them here?

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That lovely picture only applies to Christians...so what advice would you have for all us Atheists on here?🙂

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Why are we not helping these other people first?

 

It seems like a fair point. Why are we getting so upset about refugees from ‘away’ when we’ve got our own homeless people, our own families in poverty depending on food banks, our own vulnerable, suffering people? Why divert resources when we can’t look after our own?

 

It’s a clever card to play, and it’s worth looking at the people playing it and casting your mind back a bit. Are these people volunteering in food banks? Are these people below the poverty line themselves? Are these people you’ve ever seen raise a hand to help another human being? I notice that the answer seems to be ‘no’. The people keenest to say we should look after our own first, have been reliably not doing that for some time now.

 

What this does, and is designed to do, is have us wondering about the various merits of people. Who deserves our help? Who is most vulnerable, most in need, most deserving? And of course the more time we spend arguing with each other over whether person A is more or less deserving than person B, the more time we spend talking each other into the idea that maybe these people aren’t very deserving at all. Right wing agenda success achieved!

 

It’s about judging people. It’s about looking at need, and finding reasons to say ‘no’. It’s about the idea that there’s a hierarchy of need based on worthiness, not on vulnerability. All people need warmth, shelter, food, clean water and physical safety. All people. Some people are less able to provide that for themselves than others. If we have to choose, need should be the priority. That and whether we can do something. You might as well do what you can rather than fretting that you should have gone out and found someone worse off to help. Deal with what’s in front of you.

 

There are people who would like us to choose. It supports the story that resources are scarce. We can’t house our own people so we can’t house refugees. Shelter reckons there are about ten empty homes for every homeless family in the UK. We’ve got money for weapons, for MP pay rises, for a nuclear submarine we can never use and a vanity rail project so that people can get out of London a wee bit faster. We don’t mind epic tax dodging by big business, and we subsidise inadequate wages out of the state purse to make life easier for business. It is a lie that we don’t have the resources. We do have the resources. What we don’t have is the will to distribute those resources even slightly fairly, or to deploy them based on need.

Help whoever you can help. In whatever way makes sense to you.

 

https://druidlife.wordpress.com/2015/09/11/why-are-we-not-helping-these-other-people-first/

 

so true





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@aand2136-voqfz8yx wrote:

I don't usually want to write about anything with a politically leaning online, but I have to agree with this statement. Why have all those young men (and a few women) abandoned the people of their own country; they are the ones that fit and strong enough to help them. Yes it's dangerous, but then so was The Somme, so was Coventry in 1940, so was the Normandy landings and let's also add, so was Berlin in 1940 for the German people. Why do we want people with those scruples living here?

 

As a balance I think we should helping the young children. I can't bring myself to ignore them.


So who are the enemy in Syria?

 

ISIS, Assad, Russia . . . . 

 

There's a list here of the warring factions here - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_armed_groups_in_the_Syrian_Civil_War

 

Shouldn't we be encouraging those who are fighting to lay down their arms rather than encouraging more to join in?

 

The examples you quote are quite different - in all those instances there was a specific enemy - not so for civilians in Syria.

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One would have hoped where Syria was concerned that lessons would have been learned from history which is littered with examples of opposition groups fighting each other as much as fighting the regime they are opposing.

 

Not for nothing were deliveries of arms and explosives to the French resistance stopped during WW2.

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Well done Celtic & Rangers !

 

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Celtic welcome group of 140 Syrian refugees to Parkhead to join in title party

http://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/glasgow-news/celtic-welcome-group-140-syrian-11336604?utm_source=t...





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I wonder how long it'll be before the first one is nabbed after committing a crime?



It's life Jim, but not as WE know it.
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Why have you assumed my post refers only to Syrian refugess? Many of those in Calais and also across Europe are from other nations.

 

Also I did not encourage, nor even say that they should fight; I said they should not abandoned those people in their own countries that are not able to run away. The references I gave to WW1 and WWII highlight the contrast between the brave people of those eras and countries and the individuals that now want to enter the UK and Europe. Most of the brave citizens in Coventry and Berlin were not soldiers, but ordinary civilians that stayed to help those that were not able to leave.

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Remember the Syrian refugee, that wasn't -

all over our media we were informed, we were just racist  for complaing

 

because he was an interpreter

 

Same media didn't plaster it all over their screens or pages, that in fact

 

He WAS ONE OF THE SO CALLED 'CHILD' MIGRANTS and the Charity had been telling Porkies

 

 

 

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A new charity has actually begun to help them, called "Shave the Children" Man Very Happy

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@aand2136-voqfz8yx wrote:

Why have you assumed my post refers only to Syrian refugess? Many of those in Calais and also across Europe are from other nations.

 

Also I did not encourage, nor even say that they should fight; I said they should not abandoned those people in their own countries that are not able to run away. The references I gave to WW1 and WWII highlight the contrast between the brave people of those eras and countries and the individuals that now want to enter the UK and Europe. Most of the brave citizens in Coventry and Berlin were not soldiers, but ordinary civilians that stayed to help those that were not able to leave.


And we all know now what happened to those Jews, gypsies, homosexuals etc. that stayed!

 

The same thing is happening to Christians and Muslims of the 'wrong' sect.

 

In most cases it is the young men who have the best chance of surviving the rigours of an escape and are 'sent' by their families with the hope that they can then help their families if they are successful.

 

Sat in our comfortable homes it is too easy to criticise those who are desperate to escape from violence, poverty or discrimination.  I am very much in favour of a strong border and 'controlled' immigration - I believe that politicians are fair game for criticism but I will not condemn anyone who is simply attempting to make a better, (or any), life for themselves and their families.  

 

 

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They were "safe" in the first (few?) countries they got to but oh no, they want to come here because the liberals (with a small "L") and do-gooders pander to their every whim allowing them to set up ghettos at our expense where they live in the same squalor they did "back home" and continue to speak their own language making no attempt to learn to speak English plus encouraging yet more of them come here.



It's life Jim, but not as WE know it.
Live long and prosper.

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