20-12-2013 7:14 PM
So, now the case is over and those two PA's have been found not guilty of fraud, shouldn't they now face a charge of blackmail?
They claimed they'd been allowed to use those credit cards to keep quiet about the alleged drug addiction of NL so doesn't that amount to blackmail?
It's life Jim, but not as WE know it.
Live long and prosper.
21-12-2013 2:28 PM - edited 21-12-2013 2:30 PM
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(Sorry I can't do blue type!)
21-12-2013 2:46 PM
¿¿¿¿ I can.
It's life Jim, but not as WE know it.
Live long and prosper.
21-12-2013 3:18 PM
21-12-2013 3:43 PM
21-12-2013 4:16 PM
I'm not trying to bring CD round to my way of thinking. Gawd knows, that would be a task and a half. I am just expressing my opinion
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21-12-2013 4:16 PM
21-12-2013 4:33 PM
@**caution**opinion_ahead wrote:I'm not trying to bring CD round to my way of thinking. Gawd knows, that would be a task and a half. I am just expressing my opinion
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Yes, Intransigent and immovable springs to mind.
21-12-2013 4:58 PM
Team Nigella???? is that a game show?
There is no criteria set,..... so it's a bit of a dogs dinner
Embezzlement charge - eh?
There may be some overlap between theft and the Fraud Act, such that it would depend on the nature of any allegations and their timing ( FA 2007 ), but CPS prosecutors are legally qualified, experienced and under peer scrutiny.I realise this is poor quality modern education in comparison with a post war cse woodwork ( failed), but heck.
Blackmail?? lol - already dealt with!
Accounting? - if one means personal control over finances, that is down to the individual. If it's meant to included external review, audits aren't there primarily to detect fraud, but to determine a valid financial view of the years accounts.
Strategy? If one means charges... already covered, but the prosecution do not control the case for the defence, the defence lawyer/s do. As for publicity, that's controlled by the Murdoch's and Dacre's. Too much poor quality US court room darmallama's digested by the chav culture and regurgitated as fact. Dogs regurgitated dinner as they say
21-12-2013 5:10 PM
What gets me is spending upwards of a million on a credit card, before someone says hang on a minute how much!
Didn't anybody notice before?
21-12-2013 6:30 PM
@ed_blackadder_1 wrote:What gets me is spending upwards of a million on a credit card, before someone says hang on a minute how much!
Didn't anybody notice before?
The phrase more money than sense springs to mind
21-12-2013 8:38 PM
The accountant did and reading some of the lesser reported parts of the trial show that if nothing else, staff were (are) afraid of Saatchi - he didn't want to be bothered with credit cards and accounting and so the accountant just authorised the increased allowance on the cards. So he obviously also had tremendous freedom to handle (mishandle) the finances as well. I cannot understand why the accountant was not implicated, at least in terms of negligence or failing to control what was his responsibility.
Saatchi was not someone who staff could go to and ask for consent - he was unapproachable and they knew not to 'bother him' but that doesn't mean it gave the accountant carte blanche to just increase the Grillos' spending power.
But if Saatchi couldn't be bothered either, then he should put up with the consequences!
It would have been sufficient to have simply cut the credit allowance and even to 'move' the sisters on, reasonably amicably to ensure there was no adverse publicity.
But this was all about a growing chasm in the marriage, enormous jealousy and power-craze in an embittered old man who couldn't get his way, so scapegoats were dragged out to be abused in public for him to enact his revenge.
It's all so stupid - and purile - and a waste of tax payers money and I hope all the court fees are payed by the losing team.
22-12-2013 11:33 AM
the Nouveau-Riche are only rich riff-raff
Interesting comment, CeeDee - what evidence are you basing that statement on?
Did these 'Nouveau-Riche' only become riff-raff after they acquired their money, do you think, or are they riff-raff because they were born poor and just got lucky?
In which case, is everyone who isn't actually 'born' into money riff-raff... in your opinion?
What about people who are 'born' into money and subsequently become drug addicts, wife beaters, sex offenders etc should they be considered riff-raff also?
Or are we not allowed to say that because clearly we are all just jealous of them anyway LOL
22-12-2013 12:30 PM
I could tell many tales of both the Nouveau-Riche and the Landed Gentry and there are riff-raff amongst both.
However based on those I've met........ a large percentage of those not "born in to money" show their class, or rather, their lack of it in the way they behave and speak.
On the other hand, I've only met two members of the Landed Gentry that behaved in a manner more suited to riff-raff (both Lords). I've only read about others that behave like riff-raff.
Jealousy seems to rear it's head in Britain whenever someone has good fortune whether that's won by fair deal, simple luck or by inheritance. From what I've seen, the American way seems to be more towards wishing the fortunate more of the same.
It's life Jim, but not as WE know it.
Live long and prosper.
22-12-2013 12:47 PM
22-12-2013 12:49 PM
Ah, but the thing is, some are more equal than others.
It's life Jim, but not as WE know it.
Live long and prosper.
22-12-2013 1:02 PM
22-12-2013 1:05 PM
Animals do that sort of thing?
It's life Jim, but not as WE know it.
Live long and prosper.
22-12-2013 1:09 PM
22-12-2013 1:23 PM
22-12-2013 3:50 PM
It now looks like she could be charged for her admitted use of Class A drugs, just like any non-'celebrity' would be.
http://news.sky.com/story/1186017/police-review-nigella-lawson-drug-admission
Is the Prime Minister on 'Team Nigella' now?