Simple Delivery Exceptions size still not clarified

Yesterday's update from Eve Williams, General Manager, eBay UK says

"Items which can still use untracked service: There are a few categories of items where we’ll still permit untracked services if that’s your preference. This includes letter-sized items that meet both of the following criteria: they weigh up to 100 grams and are priced at a maximum of £10, excluding buyer fees."

 

Despite requests from myself and other ebay sellers the 'Letter size" is still not shown.

Is this going to be restricted to standard letters or will it include 'Large' letter size?

 

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So, if I have an item for sale at £2.00 with free postage that weighs 101g and is large letter size, what will I be charged to post by ebay? £2.70?

 

And lose 70p on the item?

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Correct - £2.70.

I am currently pulling 100s of items so I am not caught out on the 7th.

Charity shop next door will be pleased.

 

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Wow. That's insane.

 

I'm going to suspend all my listings tomorrow evening and see where we go from there, which admittedly was my thought process anyway.

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Don't give them away yet. If you can create listings where you are estimating no package totals over 100g or £10, then it qualifies for exemption

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Hardly anything anyone sells is going to be under a tenner and less than 100g and eBay know it.

 

Where was the point in introducing Buyer Protection and holding onto seller's funds for 14 days (which were both ways to increase income) and then chase sellers away?

 

I do try to see the logic in this stuff and not just presume that they don't know what they are doing but it's difficult to believe the way all of this is being introduced.

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But you won't be charged for the postage, your buyer will.
So your £2 item becomes a £4.70 item plus BPF of course another 91p or so, for  a bargain total of £5.60!

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Postcards

gaming cards

some coins

fabric samples

Lots of paper or card products 

others I haven’t thought of 

 

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The problem is that when you go to edit a listing, the area to enter the weight and size has vanished; it is no longer there.

 

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You can still do this, by doing the following:

 

In Seller Hub, choose active listings.

 

Choose the ones you want the weight changed. (If you only want to change one, you need to pick at least one other at this stage, although it won't be amended)

 

Click on Edit / Edit Selected

 

Highlight the ones you want to change on the "Revise Items" page.

 

Click on "Bulk Edit" and then "Package Details" in the dropdown list. Then add your new package details as required, and proceed as you would with any other revision.

 

 

 

 

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Lots of single costume jewellery items - of my 50 or so listings, 36 would qualify as 'under £10 and 100g'.

"There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.”
Søren Kierkegaard, Danish philosopher (1813 - 1855)
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'Hardly anything anyone sells is going to be under a tenner and less than 100g and eBay know it.'

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I think ebay are trying to hang on to sellers of stamps and postcards and the like.

 

Or those sellers will  de-camp to del-camp(e) !

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Having had a conversation in the cafe this morning with a couple of private sellers, we are collectively of the opinion that the exemption will not include "large letters"

 

The reason I think the exemption will be for what RM call a "letter" only, and will not include what they call "large letters", is largely down to the price.

 

A "letter" can be sent for 87p (after tomorrow's increase) - there's a huge jump from there to SD's minimum of £2.70. Admittedly, SD’s price is for tracked mail, but for low cost items, tracking really isn’t necessary.

 

The difference isn’t quite so large with “large letters”, where the minimum is £1.55 untracked, so I think they reckon they can justify it easier there.

 

Also, the Royal Mail services eBay seems to be using, Tracked 24 and Tracked 48, are not available for “letters”, but are for “large letters”.

 

Added together, I think it's unlikely "large letters" will be exempt, even if under 100g and £10.00

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When you list, Ebay don't differentiate between letters and large letters - this is from one of my current listings, relisted yesterday.

 

Flat: UK_RoyalMail2ndClassLetterLargeLetter £2

 

I don't usually bother to fill in the weight and dimesnsion boxes, but I have done this now for my qualifying sales.

Ebay will either leave my postage as it is (I think this will happen) or change it to SD.

I will report back by 15th.

"There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.”
Søren Kierkegaard, Danish philosopher (1813 - 1855)
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Until we get clarification, one way or another, it's impossible to be certain.

 

Just because they don't differentiate today, doesn't mean they won't tomorrow.

 

I have a small private account, so I'm hopeful, but not optimistic. Like you I've filled in weights and dimensions in "qualifying" listings.

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Although eBay is not supposed to be phasing this in until tomorrow, many of my listings are today showing the SD rates. I have NEVER listed anything with SD, always using advanced options.

 

I just had my first SD sale, and unfortunately, I can now confirm that large letter sized packages are NOT included in the SD exemptions.

 

The price was £6.49 and there was £0.98 BPF, making a total of £7.47.

 

As you can see, the weight was 90g, and the dimensions were consistent with "large letters".

 

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I have it marked as free postage, so according to what ebay have stated, those fees will come out of my sale price.

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Where does it say this?

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Ebay haven't said this. A few posters have claimed that when eBay says 'letter sized' or 'fits in an envelope' it includes large letters. There is no evidence for this claim.

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I'll happily hold my hand up if I'm wrong, I was given that information from somebody who works for eBay (not eBay CS or Community). It'll be a sad day if it turns out not to be the case.

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when Ebay are clearly trying to help private sellers 

 

Help ? Is there another ebay launched? its not a word ive ever come across with the state of the current set up.

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