NO LONGER SELLING DUE TO SIMPLE DELIVERY

[rugbyguy1960]

AS OF 15TH APRIL MY DAYS AS A PRIVATE EBAY SELLER WILL STOP AFTER 19 YEARS.

I AM FED UP OF THE GREED OF EBAY AND I HOPE OTHER EBAY SELLERS DECIDE TO NO LONGER LET THE EBAY CONTROL FREAKS HAVE THIS MUCH CONTROL OVER PRIVATE SELLERS.

[happyshopper1982]

Just completed a purchase on 4x golf shirts. I'd already messaged the seller to agree a deal - £120 all in.

 (I pay in full/seller refunds difference). Originally items were listed as £2.94 postage per item yet on checkout it had changed (even though the amounts are consistent). Total postage paid in theory £4.90, which is an as hoc combined total, yet the actual Evri fee would be £4.06 for a lot of this size. So I'm theoretically paying 84p to eBay for nothing. I'll message the seller and ask how the transaction looks his end. 

 

[moonlight-rhapsody]

The only thing that will suit me is being able to take the item to the Post Office as and when I sell it.  I'm not going to go to the trouble of packing, weighing and measuring every item, partly because some items may never sell, and partly because of space/storage consideration.  It would take a vast amount more space for me to store packaged boxes than it does to store the raw items.  Also, the only experience I've had with printing a label off ebay was disastrous - twice the Post Office rejected it and twice I had to apply for a refund.  I'm not doing that again.

 And that's even before you get on to Buyers Protection, manipulated search results, broken feedback system etc. 

[rugbyguy1960]

I don't blame you for wanting to find out. Asking is the only way you'll know.

[gmij1961]

I really don't get why simple Delivery is so important to Ebay , its very difficult to see how they think it would make them money unless the commission  they get from RM and Evri time they sell a label is that significant  and thought private sellers would just lap it up.  I can understand why SM might appeal to new or novice sellers but Ebay obviously didn't do their homework with existing buyers . 

Whether that's a result of Ebay selling postage from the Ebay site , I am not sure , but  that was easier than going to the Couriers Web site etc and booking a collection for RM was a doddle and   as long as you did before 21:00 but even if you didn't you got link through to the RM website to do it before midnight  . They gone from doing something  which was actually  quite good to doing that is truly dreadful and exposed all the really dodgy stuff they are doing with BPF at the same time .

I would love to know much  or little business their Free to Sell has bought  actually bought in  to warrant this mayhem 

[rugbyguy1960]

There are so many different things that effect so many different people. It is so different compared to 1 or 2 years ago.

[akemp1]

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@gmij1961 wrote:

I would love to know much  or little business their Free to Sell has bought  actually bought in  to warrant this mayhem 

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They might have to rename it to Free Not To Sell soon.

Or maybe Not Free Not To Sell but I guess if it doesn't sell then it really is free provided you didn't pay for any features (is that still a thing?) when listing.

How about Free Not To Sell But Not Really Free If Sells 

[happyshopper1982]

He seems happy enough. I wouldn't be. Then again shirts are quite a malleable item.

 

 

[edwardian-dreams]

really don't get why simple Delivery is so important to Ebay , its very difficult to see how they think it would make them money unless the commission  they get from RM and Evri time they sell a label is that significant ———- 

im not financially savvy at all

but if eBay have done a deal with rm surely they must be getting cheaper rates than rM offer the public

but eBay have inflated their rM 

postage to ridiculous levels ,  not just kept it at RM to public  level to keep the “deal” part and pocket the small saving

4.27 to send a 1-2kg parcel when it costs 3.45 online or 3.90 over counter ?

other posters say it’s greed

id like any poster to put an argument forward to say it’s not greed 

just so I understand in the round

🤣

[fatbob*ian]

Definitely seems to be some nervous sellers out there 😥

[fatbob*ian]

More like fee to sell 

[honeymonster007]

Just had a first experience of SD and it wasn't to bad. 

Only thing I did notice was the postage label doesn't have a price or weight on it, so guessing if some are getting rejected by the PO they must be being weighed and scanned before being rejected.

Arranging RM pick up is easy enough with the tracking number, you just have to go through the same stages as buying a label.

Guess it's just a case of getting used to it at the min.

Forgot to mention as soon you print a label the item is marked as dispatched!

Would feel a lot more comfortable if it was marked as dispatched when the item is scanned in the postal system.

[craddockcourtsales]

"It would be great if that happened. I didn't mind seller fees because I could price items accordingly and at least the price I listed a item for was what a buyer would see and knew what it would cost."

I think Ebay may have taken on board your earlier very valuable suggestions about this.

This evening I prepared a draft listing for an item which I thought buyers in UK would pay about be willing to pay about £12 plus delivery. I “guessed” at my item price of £10.84 and immediately was shown a box saying UK Buyers will pay a £1.15 fee for Buyer Protection, so could quickly calculate UK buyers would be shown a price of £11.99, whereas overseas buyers see £10.84 in their own currency.  I would like them to have another box showing that £10.84 plus £1.15 equals £10.99

I do not remember seeing this Buyer Protection Fee box before – from what I remember you had to wait until listing went live, rather than  look at draft which was poor, particularly with the uncertainty of is it 72p or 75p fee error.

Keep up the good work of giving detailed explanations of actual problems and hopefully (I am not holding  my breath) Ebay will take them on board.

[gmij1961]

You would think they have done a deal with RM  but that may not be for Simple Delivery it may just be for selling from  the  Ebay website , but probably SD 

But the commission would need to significant  , as they sell at the same price of RM online £3.44 for RM48 small packets . What SD does do is take 2nd class small packets out as it is classed as not trackable ( although delivered is tracked on Ebay purchased labels  ! )  so RM get a bit of extra revenue their to fund some of the commission.  I stopped using 2nd class as it was just easier to use RM48  for everything even though it cost a bit more , For 2nd class I could arrange a delivery by going to the RM site 

If RM have offered them a significant discount  for SD then  the  figures are based on Free to sell before BFP  and if that volume is now monumentally less and RM have a massive problem that they will want to back out of as fast as they can .  RM do seem to be aware of this and they will know exactly how many postage labels are bought from  Ebay and what are SD and what are not . What they don't know is how many labels are bought direct from the website for Ebay sales and what is bought over Post Office counter . 

I suspect they are seeing significant drops all round thanks to BPF and that will drop through the floor with SD.  RM actually stand  to lose more money  than Ebay over this and if they have signed  a shady deal with Ebay could be trouble from quite a few angles 

It is all very daft 🙂

[jma2815]

Never mind. 

[edwardian-dreams]

Thanks for replyin it’s all over my head here though 

I really don’t care about their deals at end of the day ebay are fleecing people 

you don’t need an economics degree to see that 

bloody ridiculous 

If eBay impose sd on me they can jog on 

they’ve had 22 years of my selling fees plus a few years fleecing fee on  postage fees which they weren’t entitled to  now they won’t get a penny more 

[rugbyguy1960]

I just hope they sort things sooner rather than later.

[rugbyguy1960]

Hopefully RM wouldn't go out of their way to try and make a bit of extra money from their customers. Maybe they thought SD would bring in some extra money but I agree with what you've said about this could prove costly for both RM and SD.

[wintersdawn1]

I wonder how much work it will be for rm to sort out sd parcels that have incorrect postage labels on them, depending on how good/bad ebay's AI is.

[edwardian-dreams]

Oh really.? So we’re supposed to forgive them? Ok

cos fro where I sitting theyve shat on us 

not sure I’m in a forgiving mood 

[rugbyguy1960]

I don't think it will take long for them to really start looking into things to work out if they've made a costly error.