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Hi. Sold an item from UK to Germany. After selling fees and usual deductions all went well for £170. Buyer now stating that the item is not genuine and wanted to return. I have a neurodivergent disability and did not notice that they asked for £250 as they that’s what eBay charged them. I have stated I am happy to cover the original £170 however I am not paying the £250 what will happen next please I’m extremely stressed 

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jckl1957
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The buyer will need to open a return case.

It will be up to you to provide a label or postage for them to return the item - this can be quite tricky.

They will have paid VAT/taxes on the purchase but you did not collect those fees so it is not up to you to refund them.

The starting point should be for the buyer to open a return case through Ebay.

You will not be expected to refund more than the buyer paid directly to you but you will have to facilitate the return of the item.

Don't do anything until they open a case.

Don't send any refund until you have the item back.

"There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.”
Søren Kierkegaard, Danish philosopher (1813 - 1855)

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jckl1957
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The buyer will need to open a return case.

It will be up to you to provide a label or postage for them to return the item - this can be quite tricky.

They will have paid VAT/taxes on the purchase but you did not collect those fees so it is not up to you to refund them.

The starting point should be for the buyer to open a return case through Ebay.

You will not be expected to refund more than the buyer paid directly to you but you will have to facilitate the return of the item.

Don't do anything until they open a case.

Don't send any refund until you have the item back.

"There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.”
Søren Kierkegaard, Danish philosopher (1813 - 1855)
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Thanks for reaching out. So even if ebay side with them on the item not being legit, I'll only have to refund what i got paid? Thats the bit worrying me as it was bought and as far as i was aware was legit.

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Ebay won't make a decision on whether it's legitimate, they will just assume the buyer is telling the truth.

 

You can only refund what the payer paid you for the item and postage  (before any deductions).  That might be more than you actually received from ebay.

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Ok, so for example original amount showing for me was £170 the minus fees etc i ended up with £159 in the end.

So i wont ever have to pay more than the original £170 regardless of what the buyer paid in customs etc.

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@matt_winter Hi, did you use Ebay Global shipping? If so 

"If your buyer asks you for a refund, you’re only expected to refund the cost of the item and what was charged for domestic postage. We’ll take care of refunding the international postage charges. Please handle any return postage costs directly with the buyer, depending on the reason for the return."

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I’ve only ever done one return and refund, where I had to refund the postage the buyer paid (for me the send them the item), and then had to buy the postage label for them to return it to me.

 

I’ve never sold abroad (too much risk for the reward, for a private seller, in my opinion). But from the Global Shipping Programme (I’m assuming you used this) help page, it should be similar.

 

If your buyer asks you for a refund, you’re only expected to refund the cost of the item and what was charged for domestic postage. We’ll take care of refunding the international postage charges. Please handle any return postage costs directly with the buyer, depending on the reason for the return.

If you let the buyer keep the item, then you would just refund the original amount they paid, plus domestic postage. eBay should refund the extra costs they incurred.

So if you got £159, then eBay will take back that £159, plus the cost of domestic postage (£3.42?).

 

If you want the item back, then it will be the above, plus you need to sort out the return postage with the buyer. But I have no idea how that works – I would assume a return should be exempt from taxes, but I guess it would need to be done in a certain way to qualify?

I would have thought eBay would offer a returns process still, as they do for domestic returns. But the help page seems to suggest it is down to you.

Perhaps someone else can advise on this.

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@matt_winter wrote:
Thanks for reaching out. So even if ebay side with them on the item not being legit, I'll only have to refund what i got paid? Thats the bit worrying me as it was bought and as far as i was aware was legit.

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You're getting good advice on how to proceed and I don't know where you originally bought it from but one word of advice for any future buys - beware the self-certified COA. Any item where the COA has been knocked up by the seller themselves rather than a recognised authenticator (and even some of those aren't great) isn't worth the paper it's printed on. Football shirts aren't my area at all but all areas of collecting have mickey mouse companies knocking up their own COA's on home printers. COAs are an absolute minefield.

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