Being charged the same final value fee?

I might be being stupid here as I couldn’t wrap my head around what the agents were telling me on webchat.

 

basically, I just started my business account, I sold a few items but to just focus on 3:

 

I sold a ps4 game - which to my understanding should be charged @ 9.9%

 

I also sold an electrical fan - to my understanding this should be charged @ either 10.9% or 11.9% 

 

and sold a halfords car charger - charged @ 8.9%

 

however, looking at the fee breakdown, they all show the catorgory they are listed in along with (item price x 10.6667%) 

 

I spent over an hour speaking to someone telling me it’s ’pre Vat’ then told me the catorgories were charged the same, then admitted he was wrong on that, then started saying other pointless reasons, then just told me to refer to the breakdown. 


it doesn’t bother me too much at all as they are all being charged the same % so it’s easier for me to calculate my profits on an item. I just need to know if this is right and if so, how?

 

surely if all 3 are different catorgories, all charged at different value fees, then this should mean the 10.67 should be different for all listings?

 

 

on a side note: I’m unsure wether the information I was reading was in date, but it came directly from eBay’s seller fees webpage. The web agent was telling me though that the operating fee is 0.42% or something, yet my breakdown shows it as 0.35.

 

he also told me the fixed listing price is 30p (which I was under that same assumption myself), however, my fixed fee has only been 25p for every listing. Just really confused on how their webpage figures on sellers fees aren’t matching the breakdown I’m getting?  

sorry for the long post. It’s been a long day and wanted to make sure I included all information that may be needed to avoid questions 

 

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Being charged the same final value fee?

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I'm assuming you have upgraded your account from a private seller one?

 

If so were the items in question listed before you upgraded the account?

 

It appears that you have been charged the old private seller fees (before they were replaced with the Buyer Protection Fee) of 12.8% plus 30p (10.6667 + 20% VAT = 12.8 and 25p + 20% VAT = 30p).

 

The Regulatory Fee is 0.35% + VAT = 0.42% so that is correct.

 

Going forward you should be charged as per the percentages you have outlined plus VAT and a fixed fee of 30p plus VAT. 

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Now that would make sense considering they were all charged the same value, I’m sure that private seller fee was across all catorgories too? 

one reply and I’ve already made more progress than the webchat.

 

to answer your question, yes I’ve upgraded from a private seller (in which I had no selling or listing fees) 

 

I’m pretty sure one that sold was listed after becoming a business, but I updated every single listing and higher end the price a little since turning to a business as my customers no longer incurs buyer protection, during this I had to upgrade every single listing to allow returns. Seems a bit odd they would charge me old private seller fees for a business account when I wasn’t even charged those fees while being a private seller.

 

So, according to you, this is incorrect for my situation? I’m unsure how I can dispute this after being on chat to 2 agents and a phone call which I’m apparently waiting for a phone call back, all of them seem clueless to this. 

now I’ve got a better idea of the numbers and what’s going on I may stand a better chance at disputing this

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/help/selling/fees-credits-invoices/fees-business-sellers-activated-managed-pa...

can I confirm that this link is correct to the seller fees I should be charged? 

Seems the agent was correct about the 0.42% but rather than explain why this was showing as 0.35% he just corrected me telling him it says I’m being charged 0.35% and told me it was 0.42 not 0.35, if he explained that it’s 0.42% with vat it would have saved so much time.


I do however blame the fact on the agent missing the main point. It doesn’t matter about any additional fees I had, he went on to tell me it was due to the promotion fee I was charged on the one listing which was incorrect. The only real thing that mattered from the start of the webchat is the fact every cat was 10.6667%

 

I appreciate the help and sorry for the long posts, as well as being frustrated with the situation I also suffer from adhd/autism, but I’m usually pretty good with my numbers.

 

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Your problem is that it may not be incorrect, but rather how Ebay's charging processes work in these circumstances.   

 

As they are not published anywhere you can't really dispute it.  I would try and let it go and concentrate on your business.

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I certainly wouldn't worry about disputing it.  It can take a while for an account to fully transition when upgrading so these odd charges are probably just down to timings.  It should automatically resolve itself so just keep an eye on future transactions to make sure.

 

Private seller fees were the same for all categories and, yes, the fee page you linked to is the correct one for business sellers. 

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you say they are not published anywhere? I have access to an eBay link which I posted as a reply on here to the other user who responded, which show seller fees for business accounts? These percentages were also confirmed by the agent. 

Wether or not it’s outdated which I would think they would take it down, then these fees should be different across the 3 catorgories. 

every single item has been charged at 12.8% and it shouldn’t really matter how their process works, as the stated percentage should be what it is (given some exceptions with small variance). Therefore my breakdown on fees where it tells me the rate for that specific category should all be different, not the same?

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What I meant was the process for dealing with current listings when a seller upgrades, isn't published anywhere.

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this is another long reply, only the first 3 paragraphs before it says “on another note” is a direct reply to you, the rest is just an explanation of how livid I was on the webchat yesterday, read if you wish 🙂

 

 

I was being charged on new listings too. Plus I was charged absolutely nothing as a private seller, so for them to charge me above the business rates for current items I was previously paying £0 for seems odd.

regardless, if they don’t state in the terms or anywhere of this process, then charging me more than the standard business fee for my current business account would be a breach of their own terms. 

im sure they have that side of things covered however , with some sort of clause. You would also think that customer support would be able to explain this process or why it was happening.

on another note. I was advised by eBay business group to go back to the webchat and ask for the payments team straight away, which I did. Still took him a while to click what I meant even though it was pretty easy to see

sometimes I think agents are like this because of their preset replies and customer support procedures they have to follow, as anyone else I mention this too seems to know what I mean straight away.

anyway, after about 10-15 mins, and looking through a few items, he did finally tell me that yes, I was being charged 12.8% and may be due to the transition to a business account (which I still don’t understand why) 

 

I’ve been told to blank revise all listings, then put them back up in 24 hours and should be solved, hopefully this is true and would make the previous user who replied correct in blaming the transition

so yesterday I spent 1 and a half hours on chat yesterday to an agent, who told me a few different incorrect reasons.

1) it’s pre-vat (doesn’t matter),

2) the categories are all the same percentage for fees (which he admitted was wrong once I called him out),  

He was looking at my listed items among 2 categories, both were charged at 10.6667% and as he could not answer why the 2 were exactly the same percentage he was just focused on the one listing that was closest to being correct, which was from the home,diy category at 11.9%. 


he then started sending me the links to the breakdown of my fees telling me to refer to them (the same thing I’ve been looking at the whole chat). And listed the exact breakdown to them before they even sent that link. 

the agent was blaming me, very unprofessional, to a degree I’ve never seen before. He made me so livid, how I didn’t sweat I will never know. 


told me I was just dragging the chat out as I already had a solution and I’m not listening to it. I told him he never resolved anything and his reply was saying to just refer to these breakdowns. The exact breakdowns I’m confused about and asking questions about. 

Now obviously I was charged 12.8%, but not knowing the VAT was included at the time I was telling the agent I was being charged 10.6667% on all categories, which is overcharged on my video game listing before the 20% gets added on.

 

As I mentioned the agent was only focusing on the once category mainly and said to me sarcastically ‘oh so you’ve been given a discount’ followed by ‘so you want me to raise a dispute so you get charged more?’ He said this a few times and along with the context of that chat you could tell he was being sarcastic.

he then went on to say that I’m just ignoring all the numbers that are put infront of me, that he’s given me a solution/explanation but I just don’t want to listen. I was so lose to swearing at him, I just said I was going to raise a complaint, his attitude changed a little from there (not sure why, eBay doesn’t do nothing with these complaints)

 

after that I mentioned again about the 10.6667% was charged in both categories, which I mentioned about 10 times in the chat prior, his response was “oh so your being charged that in BOTH categories now?”, as if I never told him 10 times prior. He then said something which made a bit more sense to me but I was still confused, and as I was typing he responded with “I’m glad we could finally come to a mutual resolution after 1 hour and 30 minutes in chat, then abruptly ended the chat on me just before I hit send.

 

As you can probably tell from what happened, this made me livid. I blame myself as I knew in the back of my mind after 20-30 mins I was going to get nowhere with this agent.

i just wish I could file a formal complaint against that agent, I almost changed my mind when he started being professional again, until he ended chat.

 

sorry for the long post again. Just had to get this off my chest and I will be attempting to send a letter down to eBay’s office in London with a formal complaint and screenshots of the trascripts from that agent and the agent who told me I was correct. I also put this here because all the years I’ve been onto live chats etc (and I’ve had some idiots) I’ve never come across one that started becoming that bitter even though they can’t comprehend simple English. 

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It was never about disputing it, but rather about confirming that this is either a glitch or something normal that happens during transition, it seems very off to be charged a fee they’ve done away with. 

I hate the unknown, and not knowing if this is a glitch that only affects certain accounts, it may not get resolved. So I wanted confirmation of this. Instead, all I got from support was incorrect information. 


I did get further with this with another agent today as I was advised by the eBay business group to straight away ask for payment department, I don’t think he fully understood straight away either as he was claiming it was correct. It didn’t take him long though to be fair to realize that it wasn’t quite right.

he told me the same as you, about transitioning. Wether or not that was also a guess his side, he gave me actions to do, which was to blank revise all listings and put them back 24 hours later and I should be charged the correct fees for it.

I don’t usually write posts, as I kind of escalate on matters too much, especially ones like this so I don’t want to make this reply too long, but if you want to hear just how unprofessional the agent was on the webchat yesterday, you can read my latest reply to papso22, I’ve never experienced a web agent like this in 30 years 

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He also used the excuse ‘it does say variable’ which is hard to argue against

 

all I could say was about the very low odds that both variable percentages form both categories landing on the exact same percentage to the fourth decimal point 

 

 

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