20-04-2025 9:56 AM
In one particular thread about 'Simple Delivery' which I've been active in over the past few days, the suggestion has been made that someone - ie., me, an eBay member of 25 years - should start a petition.
With seemingly thousands of posts in numerous threads from members extremely displeased with both SD and the closely-associated BPF - which effectively replaced the 'Sellers Fee' that we all used to pay - perhaps it may be an idea to consolidate the strength of feeling in one place?
So, here it is - the closest we can likely get to an actual petition on this board - and please, keep it simple.
If you object to the mandatory implementation of 'Simple Delivery' and would like it either scrapped altogether, or made optional so those who wish to can use it - please simply post:
Scrap SD
or
Make SD Optional
And as the 'Buyer Protection Fee' is having negative impacts on us as sellers (and buyers, which many of us are too), and would like eBay to revert to the old 'Seller Fees' system (none of us can reasonably expect this platform to be run for free) then please simply post:
BPF - Revert to Seller Fees
Unless you only wish to register an opinion on one or the other, I don't see any reason why both SD and BPF cannot be included in single posts.
Maybe, if enough of us make our voices heard in one place, so the powers-that-be can see clearly, they might - just might - listen. Over to you.
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20-04-2025
8:18 PM
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20-04-2025
9:37 PM
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kh-brendon
Having spent my career in Finance it's terminology I use.
20-04-2025 8:19 PM
It must have been difficult to house such a personal collection?
20-04-2025 8:20 PM - edited 20-04-2025 8:21 PM
Delete your email or you will be open to scammers 😞 not allowed on the boards 😞
20-04-2025 8:25 PM
Make SD Optional
BPF - Revert to Seller Fees
a staggered fee as the sales value increases
20-04-2025 8:32 PM
You pose a good question, re fees.
I think BPF for low end items is savage, it can mean nearly a 20% premium on items around a £5 mark.
If BPF has to stay then I would put a trigger in that its not payable until a sale makes say £10 or have a micro payment if under a tenner of say 20p. Its the fixed fee that is crippling.
Re fees for private sellers I think based on whats going on the 7% mark would be more than fair but none of the special offers on FvF which i believe got us in part to this mess in the first place and ebay's failure to deal with private business accounts quickly and properly.
Simple delivery - has to be optional. I am sure people find it helpful.... but its certainly not for all.
20-04-2025 8:40 PM
Make SD optional.
BPF - Revert to seller fees.
20-04-2025 8:49 PM
Oh, I agree - the percentage weight on low-cost items is too great.
Graduated fees, for everyone (Private and Business), would be ideal and would help level the playing field to a large extent (not the whole way to a level field but ………….)
It worked before and can still work again - only if they just chuck their theory books away and operate with the practicalities of how buyers/sellers work.
eBay have, indeed, been too “giving” in the past with discounted fees, vouchers for this and that etc - just trying (too hard) to be the popular place to buy and sell.
Simple Delivery I can’t really comment on - the working of it anyway - but if it increases the overall cost to their cherished buyers, then they’re being nothing other than being very foolish.
20-04-2025 9:44 PM
Scrap Simple Delivery - allow sellers to select their own choice of courier and set their own postage costs.
Scrap Buyer Protection Fee - reinstate the old system of selling fees that preceded the Buyer Protection Fee.
If eBay were to listen to these responses and take action according to the votes cast, I'd like to add one more thing for eBay's consideration - bring back PayPal as a payment option for sellers and allow all sellers, whether business or private, to choose between PayPal or eBay Managed Payments as their preferred means of receiving payment. If this third option were to be implemented by eBay then I may well give serious consideration to returning to eBay as a seller again.
20-04-2025 10:03 PM
Make SD optional.
20-04-2025 10:16 PM
Make sad optional
unless there’s plenty of opt out which it seems they’re now including
Do whatever to not pee off masses of sellers and buyers
reverse bpf
Fees system was better
20-04-2025 10:16 PM
Make SD Optional
As a member of eBay for 30 years (since eBay was called Auctionweb!), SD is the worst change that eBay have come up with. It Simply Doesn't work. I have started to sell off my personal collection of comics, and eBay think that a comic can go in an envelope, which shows they know nothing about the type of packing needed to safely send even one comic through the mail. I tend to list comics singularly, or sometimes in small sets, and there's been many times where the same buyer has won multiple listings which I have then combined into a single box them and charged just one postage charge. This can't be done with Simple Delivery, and it just makes everything too expensive for the buyer. I will never, ever use Evri to send out my comics, or any other stuff that I may sell. I want my stuff to arrive with the buyer, and in good condition. With Evri, there's a probability of less than 50% that it arrives undamaged, or even arrives at all. I also want to choose and decide what type of service that I want to dispatch by, depending on many different factors, including the value and packing needed for any particular item. One size doesn't fit all. There are many other reasons why SD won't work for me, and most people on these boards know all the reasons.
BPF - Revert to Seller Fees
I knew where I stood with seller fees, and I could always factor those fees into my listing prices. BPF makes things extremely difficult, especially when it comes to offers and counter offers. Buyers and sellers are seeing different prices to each other. It also makes low priced items too expensive for buyers. I list some items at £0.99. Previously, the buyer would actually pay £0.99, plus the postage. After eBay fees, I would probably make around £0.60-£0.65, which was fine with me, as I'd just like to see those items go to someone who wants them, rather than throw them into my bin. Now, my 99p items are listed as £1.75 to the buyer - how is that better for the buyer? If the buyer wants it, they are paying more than before, and if they don't want to pay that much, then I won't sell it. And then you have the auction items. If I was listing something rare and expensive that was going to attract a lot of bids, I knew that I would be paying fees on the final price. Now, the higher the bid price, the higher the amounts go up for the buyers, which could turn buyers away from bidding. How is that a good thing for buyer or seller? Especially considering that ALL buyers on eBay were already protected by eBay's MBG, what extra things are they suddenly protected from that they have to pay for?
Excuse me for boring you all to death with my rants. As a member that was there right at the beginning of eBay (before they were even eBay!), I know that it was the private sellers like me that helped make eBay the success it is today. Now they appear to be waging war on private sellers, and are doing everything they can to get rid of us on their platform altogether.
The BPF is bad enough, but I think the SD is going to be the final nail in the coffin for me. I'm leaving my listings as they are for the moment, as they are still relisting using my own postage options and not SD, although since BPF, I've noticed a lot less interest. When I'm finally forced to use SD, I may see how the first one goes, but I'm pretty sure that I'll end up cancelling all my listings, and start looking at selling on FB groups or elsewhere instead.
I just feel incredibly let down by eBay.
20-04-2025 10:29 PM
Make SD optional
Revert back to (reasonable) seller fees
20-04-2025 10:37 PM
Well said big_tell. My sentiments exactly.
20-04-2025 10:45 PM
Inpost is the new amazon
they’re a very sophisticated set up
inpost would have been a better choice than evri by miles
more locations and in places people go to in their day to day life ie supermarkets
no inr claims
out of hours use
cheap prices
flexibility all around, ie whatever you send the weight doesn’t matter if it’s up to 15kg , it’s just the size you get charged for
etc etc
21-04-2025 12:46 AM
@edwardian-dreams wrote:Inpost is the new amazon [...] whatever you send the weight doesn’t matter if it’s up to 15kg , it’s just the size you get charged for
Now that really does sound commendably 'simple'. Although it must be good for sellers of small, dense things, like books, but bad for big light things like duvets or teddy bears.
21-04-2025 12:58 AM
Make SD Optional
BPF - Revert to Seller Fees + Regular Reduced FVF Offers
21-04-2025 7:56 AM
Make SD Optional
BPF - Revert to Seller Fees
21-04-2025 8:55 AM
Make SD Optional
BPF - Revert to Seller Fees (And make private sellers pay the same as business sellers, as well as giving them the same offers and vouchers. If the base rate is too high for the private sellers, lower the rate for all. Absolutely no reason why businesses should pay more than individuals for the service provided.)
Perhaps with more brackets for fees, percentages stepping up with the sale price, along with a set fee to make sure ebay make enough from low value sales.
And bring back combined postage invoicing!!
21-04-2025 9:05 AM
Make SD Optional
BPF - Revert to Seller Fees
21-04-2025 9:51 AM
scrap SD !