PAYMENTS - THIS RIDUCULOUS NEW SYSTEM

[stevesoller]

i HAVE  USED  EBAY  FOR  AROUND  30  YEARS around  20 years  with my current  details  and  previously in the  early  days  around  10  years  with  different sign in name  which incorporated a house  name  from  which we  moved!

Anyway as  from  now  I have  ceased  to  use  Ebay  as  I do not  agree  with  the  NEW!! payment  system

Nothing  leaves  my premises  until  it  is  paid  for,  thats  a similar  system  that  the  retail trade  uses  isnt  it??

One  does not  enter  a shop and  select what they wish to  purchase,  tell the  shopkeaper  I will send  you  the  payment in  a  few days  time  and  leave  with  the  goods.

I have  spoken to other eBay users  I know all of  whom  are totally against  this  system and  will not  be  selling!

EBAY  you need  to  wake  up  quickly  and  sort  out  this  matter!

[maarsy]

i gave them a ring to see what was wrong , they said it will clear once i have shipped them out with tracking . though as far as i understood i assume for lower value items where i would use a 2 nd class option it might take longer . i'm not sure what the benefit is of a business account than as if i was selling it private and shipped it out with tracking i would still get the money in 2 days but without the selling fee 

[papso22]

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@maarsy wrote:

i gave them a ring to see what was wrong , they said it will clear once i have shipped them out with tracking . though as far as i understood i assume for lower value items where i would use a 2 nd class option it might take longer . i'm not sure what the benefit is of a business account than as if i was selling it private and shipped it out with tracking i would still get the money in 2 days but without the selling fee 

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The benefit of a business account to a seller is that if you are buying goods to sell (trading), you are doing so legally.  It would be wrong to upgrade to a business account just to be paid quicker when not actually running a business.

[moldosgifts]

when did you upgrade to a business?

[moldosgifts]

Was it around 20th last month or last week/

[moldosgifts]

This was posted by meleksale 

has lost the plot!...I don't send every item tracked, Now the payments is on hold till 20th february how will I know if the buyer recieved the item? unless they leave feedback or let ebay know the item arrived safe.

Post 687 on the "Your funds will be available for payout once we receive delivery confirmation" thread

So again the 20th February wonder if there is some kind of connection or just coincidence 

[maarsy]

yesterday , i will start packing up what was sold today soon i'll keep an eye open on what happens with the funds 

[moldosgifts]

Please don't quote me but i believe your before upgrade orders are treated differently then your business ones.

Any sales from now will be funds available once a cleared payment received by ebay.

This is because your old orders were sold on a private account now they are on a business account from now on should be treated differently.

There could be a slight waiting time to get your full business benefits on this but who the heck knows with all the changes coming thick and fast.

[bittyboy101]

Something's definitely changed in eBay regarding checkout and payment  

Just won an auction for something and went to pay... I selected PayPal as my payment option... but when I went and clicked on "Pay with PayPal"  - I WASN'T ASKED OR GIVEN THE OPTION TO LOG INTO PAYPAL AND SELECT WHICH FUNDING SOURCE I WANT TO USE LIKE "PAYPAL CREDIT", "PAYPAL PAY IN 3" OR MY CARD/BANK ACCOUNT - EBAY JUST SWIPED PAYPAL DIRECTLY TO MY BANK !!! - GIVING ME NO OPTION TO SAY NO ! -  I WANT TO PAY BY THIS WAY IN PAYPAL  (I.E PAYPAL CREDIT)... SO NOW AFTER GETTING STUNG LIKE THIS... I WON'T BE BUYING MUCH ON EBAY FROM NOW ON. 

[moldosgifts]

Have you asked paypal why that happened ? Sorry but i don't see it as an Ebay issue but something on paypal.

Don't shoot the messenger but shoot the guy that sent it. 

[bittyboy101]

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@moldosgifts wrote:

Have you asked paypal why that happened ? Sorry but i don't see it as an Ebay issue but something on paypal.

Don't shoot the messenger but shoot the guy that sent it. 

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No point, as this was NOT PAYPAL'S FAULT.

Normally when I buy something on eBay and make payment, I select Pay by PayPal and have to log into PayPal to complete my payment, This gives me MORE OPTIONS AND CONTROL of what funding source I want to use to pay. Now today I won an auction, went as normal (I thought) to pay by PayPal, only it didn't give me the option to log into PayPal and choose my funding source, eBay just said "Thank you for shopping on eBay" and gave me a payment reference. That's it.

Now this is unacceptable and could have been disastrous had this been a £200 item instead of a £9 item.

[moldosgifts]

All ebay do is send paypal a request for payment once sorted paypal send you back to ebay,

So paypal have not asked for your login detail, so again i would ask paypal why?

[vintique*violet]

Did you by any chance previously purchase something whereby it stated in small print that by accepting eBay can  use PayPal to fund future purchases?  ( words not verbatim) 

I had it on something way back when I made an offer - but it meant that  I was giving my permission to eBay to  authorise  all future purchases etc... so I hit back browser... I do not want any third party "arranging" payments on my behalf. @bittyboy101 

[bittyboy101]

EBAY DID NOT DIRECT ME TO PAYPAL LIKE THEY NORMALLY DO TO ALLOW ME TO LOG INTO MY PAYPAL ACCOUNT AND CHOOSE THE PAYMENT OPTION I WANT TO USE - EBAY NOW CUT OUT THIS STAGE OF REDIRECTING ME TO THE PAYPAL WEBSITE FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO LOG IN THERE AND CHOOSE HOW I  WANT TO PAY. 

SO THIS IS 100% EBAY'S FAULT BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOW CHANGED SOMETHING - TODAY THE WHOLE EBAY CHECKOUT HAS A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT APPEARANCE AND LAYOUT.   

[maarsy]

while i was registered as a private seller i do still declare my income to the tax office , so i still have a hard time to see that paying the selling fee now as a business is going to benefit me much 

[maarsy]

i hope to see some benefit from it , i posted out items i sold today with the tracking and the order is now marked with - funds will be available when delivered . 

as someone else mentioned , some people depend on the money to be available as they need it to pay for the postage . i operate as a self employed business and dont have a vast amount of funds i can have floating trough the postal system . i depend on the money thats being paid for postage to be available for me to buy the label with ... 

[bittyboy101]

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@vintique*violet wrote:

Did you by any chance previously purchase something whereby it stated in small print that by accepting eBay can  use PayPal to fund future purchases?  ( words not verbatim) 

I had it on something way back when I made an offer - but it meant that  I was giving my permission to eBay to  authorise  all future purchases etc... so I hit back browser... I do not want any third party "arranging" payments on my behalf. @bittyboy101 

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Hi Violet 🙂

No I never did this, I'm always very careful and have always used PayPal whenever I don't want a direct charge to my bank account as I have other payment options in PayPal like if I wanted a £150 item I could choose "Pay in 3" which is basically paying the £150 in 3 smaller installments of £50 once a month for 3 months until fully paid. PayPal still pay the seller that £150 upfront so the seller still gets all their money and the item paid for in full.  This just gives me more leeway to be able to purchase something that I couldn't afford to pay for all in one go and gives me the chance to buy it whilst I can ! as well as it give eBay and the seller the business... but if they are now going to  take this away then I really can't afford to buy on eBay anymore...   

[vintique*violet]

@bittyboy101 I am unsure as to why this has happened - have you contacted eBay CS to ask them? It usually does come up with choices such as bank, paypal or card and then you need to confirm... Is the purchase definitely in your purchases? I wonder if it is another " glitch?" A  small blessing it was not a huge amount as it could be catastrophic if wrong payment provider used... Let us know if you find out why it happened, personally I have stopped buying here so sorry unable to check to see if it does the same?  

Off topic .... Many upset buyers/sellers here today regarding the app failure. It is unbelievable what is happening.  

[bittyboy101]

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@vintique*violet wrote:

@bittyboy101 I am unsure as to why this has happened - have you contacted eBay CS to ask them? It usually does come up with choices such as bank, paypal or card and then you need to confirm... Is the purchase definitely in your purchases? I wonder if it is another " glitch?" A  small blessing it was not a huge amount as it could be catastrophic if wrong payment provider used... Let us know if you find out why it happened, personally I have stopped buying here so sorry unable to check to see if it does the same?  

Off topic .... Many upset buyers/sellers here today regarding the app failure. It is unbelievable what is happening.  

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I'll try and contact eBay's CS to complain about this but I doubt they will be able to do anything... this is another side effect change that is now set in stone and the end of me being able to purchase expensive stuff from eBay anymore *gutted* 😞  

[papso22]

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@maarsy wrote:

while i was registered as a private seller i do still declare my income to the tax office , so i still have a hard time to see that paying the selling fee now as a business is going to benefit me much 

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Trading legally on a business account has absolutely nothing to do with HMRC and the taxes they administer.

It's consumer and misrepresentation laws that you now abide by, but didn't before.

[dels-diecasts17]

Hi, totally agree with your comments,  spoke to Ebay tonight and vented the concerns over this new system, hope they take notice as you say people will stop selling and use other formats like Vinted, l have sent off parcels today (Sat) so have to wait until maybe Wednesday at least for payout that if Royal Mail tracking updates ok , in the mean time my money sits in Ebays bank account earning them interest along with much more, think we will watch to see if they change back to old way.

Kind regards Derrick