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    <title>Question Re: How can I stop making a loss?? in Member To Member Support DO NOT DELETE</title>
    <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/Member-To-Member-Support-DO-NOT/How-can-I-stop-making-a-loss/qaa-p/6931907#M1246639</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;"I don't want to have to hike up the postage or overprice my items"&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Looking at it that way there is no solution. You prices should include expenses, if you cannot sell at a price that covers expenses then it is pointless selling.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Bearing in mind that the 12.8%&amp;nbsp; comes out of postage as well as welling price, so unless you build that into the postage you will always be losing money.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;If Paypal and now ebay have a fixed fee, then so should sellers, so I always like to think that Postage and PACKING covers at least the 30p plus the&amp;nbsp; 12.8%(of the postage). It is no good trying to be as cheap as possible so that you do not lose sales, if you are selling at a loss.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;You either make prices profitable or you have no choice but to sell at a loss.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;There is no formula that will make selling at a loss turn into a profit.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2021 18:49:16 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>john1297576</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2021-04-18T18:49:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>How can I stop making a loss??</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/Member-To-Member-Support-DO-NOT/How-can-I-stop-making-a-loss/qaq-p/6931899</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi guys&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I can't be the first person to ask but how on earth do I stop myself from making a loss with my auctions. Ive been trying to work out a formula that includes the 12.8% that eBay take plus the extra 30p but I cannot get my head around it. I don't want to have to hike up the postage or overprice my items but it seems that eBay leave me no choice! If it helps the courier I usually use is costing me £2.34 per parcel. Thanks in advance&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2021 18:28:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/Member-To-Member-Support-DO-NOT/How-can-I-stop-making-a-loss/qaq-p/6931899</guid>
      <dc:creator>colby_brighton</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-04-18T18:28:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How can I stop making a loss??</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/Member-To-Member-Support-DO-NOT/How-can-I-stop-making-a-loss/qaa-p/6931905#M1246638</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;It's really very easy!&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Just calculate what fees will be payable - as a rule of thumb, allow about 15% of the total sale price, including postage. (Assuming you don't add any "paid-for" optional listing features, like a reserve price.)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Then start your listings at the lowest price you would be willing to accept, allowing for the fact that eBay's fees will reduce the amount you receive by about 15%.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;My advice would be to add a good safety margin. There's no point in selling things if you're not getting a worthwhile price. Also remember that sooner or later you may get a buyer who wants their money back. Buyers can invent any reason, and eBay makes the seller refund them in full, including postage, and pay for a prepaid return label. If you're&amp;nbsp;hardly making anything on sales, even a single money back guarantee claim can wipe out any small profit you may have made.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2021 18:42:27 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/Member-To-Member-Support-DO-NOT/How-can-I-stop-making-a-loss/qaa-p/6931905#M1246638</guid>
      <dc:creator>red_magpie</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-04-18T18:42:27Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How can I stop making a loss??</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/Member-To-Member-Support-DO-NOT/How-can-I-stop-making-a-loss/qaa-p/6931907#M1246639</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;"I don't want to have to hike up the postage or overprice my items"&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Looking at it that way there is no solution. You prices should include expenses, if you cannot sell at a price that covers expenses then it is pointless selling.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Bearing in mind that the 12.8%&amp;nbsp; comes out of postage as well as welling price, so unless you build that into the postage you will always be losing money.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;If Paypal and now ebay have a fixed fee, then so should sellers, so I always like to think that Postage and PACKING covers at least the 30p plus the&amp;nbsp; 12.8%(of the postage). It is no good trying to be as cheap as possible so that you do not lose sales, if you are selling at a loss.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;You either make prices profitable or you have no choice but to sell at a loss.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;There is no formula that will make selling at a loss turn into a profit.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2021 18:49:16 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/Member-To-Member-Support-DO-NOT/How-can-I-stop-making-a-loss/qaa-p/6931907#M1246639</guid>
      <dc:creator>john1297576</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-04-18T18:49:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How can I stop making a loss??</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/Member-To-Member-Support-DO-NOT/How-can-I-stop-making-a-loss/qaa-p/6931920#M1246648</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;how did you do it before the change to managed payments?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;you are actually paying less in fees now than you were when paypal processed the payment,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;before you paid 10% to ebay and 2.9% plus 30p to paypal&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;now you only pay 12.8% plus 30p to ebay!&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2021 19:03:27 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/Member-To-Member-Support-DO-NOT/How-can-I-stop-making-a-loss/qaa-p/6931920#M1246648</guid>
      <dc:creator>pixiesen2012</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-04-18T19:03:27Z</dc:date>
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