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    <title>topic Re: OK, in or out? in The Round Table</title>
    <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/OK-in-or-out/m-p/4789966#M182735</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;The fact that 40 odd years after we joined we still use feet and inches..pints...etc just goes to show how entrenched we are...De Gaulle said we shouldn't join the Common Market because we will never be Europeans...he was right!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;i think we will be much better off OUT..whatever the BBC Government propaganda machine says. Already we have the scaremongering...unlike the Scottish referendum where they left the banking 'bombshell' till the last minute...that, as the Scots now realise was utter twaddle!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;As for the NHS scares...back in the '60s ...LONG BEFORE we joined the Common Market...my aunt was matron of a large psychiatric hospital. She told me that they were fast tracking visas for nurses and doctors from Africa, Phillipines etc. THAT has never changed. Most of our doctors and nurses who migrated here have come from OUTSIDE the EU...that is unlikely to change. If we need staff from within Europe there's nothing to stop them from being fast tracked either. No-one will be 'obliged' to leave straightaway if we vote out anyway! Besides...WHY are we not training more nurses in UK?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;We import more to the EU more than we export. They need us more than we need them...as the recents ads on &amp;nbsp;the telly have said...Canada, China, NZ, Australia etc etc...all WANT to trade with us! There are great opportunities out there. What holds us back at the moment is EU red tape...it's a bureaucratic&amp;nbsp;nightmare. It's not straightforward importing or exporting...even within the EU. As for most of us selling on eBay...we MIGHT have to put a CN22 on our EU parcels...and our customers MIGHT have to pay taxes...it doesn't deter many outside the EU...postage is a different matter...that has always been the biggest deterrent! In fact we could score there...as VAT wouldn't apply to EU prices.....&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Jobs will be protected if we stay in...ok...REALLY? What about the jobs we've lost as a result of our being in...have they forgotten the Bombardier fiasco where we had to accept a lower bid from outside UK to build trains...to the detriment of UK jobs! What about MODE 4 agreements too...like the one with India where they can bring staff into UK for 6 months to do highly skilled (debatable!) work...for under minimum wage and without employment laws because they are technically employed in India. The trade off BTW was a stipulation that the price for generic drugs manufactured for the 3rd world must be increased to allow for EU drug giants like Glaxo Smithkline 'compete' ....so now you know why you need to raise more money from Comic Relief and Children in Need...the Red Cross/Crescent, Medicins sans frontier and other charities are having to pay through the nose for AIDS and cancer victims in Africa ...and whilst the Indian billionaires rub their hands in glee...their poorest people are also suffering!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Of course there has been a monumental shift in heavy industry...we've no coal mines....steel is finished...car manufacture is shrinking...ship building is negligable. Then there's the potteries...not making pots. In my hometown of Portsmouth we've lost BAe shipbuilding and our dockyard is almost non existent. Our naval ships are being built piecemeal around the dockyards that are left..whilst MOD ships are being built in S Korea. All of this has come about since we have been in the EU. I'm not saying it's the cause...but it hasn't prevented monumental change in Britains manufacturing heartland. Germany has prospered mind you...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;As as for Polish, Romanian, Bulgarian workers. Most of the jobs they are employed in are not even advertised here. South Coast Shipping only employs Poles... Many construction contractors only employ Eastern Europeans on minimum wage...but they buy up houses to give them a cheap roof over their heads...charge minimal rent whilst their employees claim benefits for their families at home ...the houses are investments so they can't lose! Our young families struggling with high rents or massive mortgages can't compete against them. If you google jobs in Bognor...most hairdressers, shop work etc stipulate fluent Polish or Russian!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;They say security will be compromised...cobblers...we are members of NATO and Interpol..we have one of the very best security services in the world...never mind the EU...they rely more on us than we do on them...they NEED to share Intel with us ...and us being in or out makes no difference. If their handling of the refugee crisis is anything to go by...they will need us more than ever!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;As &amp;nbsp;for the freedom of travel...as a travel agent before we joined the Common market I can assure everyone that flashing your passport at airports, ports and frontiers is ridiculously easy! As it is TRY and go to Europe without a passport...you won't get back to UK very easily. Basically, there will be very little change! The only downside is if you want to bring van loads of fags and booze back with you....not that our Customs will let you keep them unless you can convince them it's for your personal use!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;HOWEVER I do think we ought to be given an alternative to IN or OUT...we know that the planet of London wants to be IN....so turn it into a kind of 'Singapore' ...we have a natural frontier in the M25... The companies that want to remain in the EU can register themselves in London 'zone'...the rest of us can be British and without the EU. We could then establish ourself as a 'Free Trade Area' ...attracting business worldwide (subject to quotas)...and the EU will be clamouring to join US!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Anyway...I just hope people will see all the doom and gloom doled out by the government propaganda machine for what it is! Smoke and mirrors! If you haven't benefitted in the last 40 odd years...what makes you think that will change? I for one do not want to see us as part of a Franco-German centric federal state.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2016 01:35:06 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>bridget-jones-diary</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2016-04-20T01:35:06Z</dc:date>
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      <title>OK, in or out?</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/OK-in-or-out/m-p/4685884#M177516</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF" face="book antiqua,palatino" size="3"&gt;How about an RT poll?&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF" face="book antiqua,palatino" size="3"&gt;No reasons, no argument, no debate just a straightforward IN or OUT.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF" face="book antiqua,palatino" size="3"&gt;Me?&lt;FONT color="#FF0000"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt; OUT&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2016 12:36:37 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>cee-dee</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-20T12:36:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: OK, in or out?</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/OK-in-or-out/m-p/4685901#M177517</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;OUT&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2016 12:43:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/OK-in-or-out/m-p/4685901#M177517</guid>
      <dc:creator>jd.linklater</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-20T12:43:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: OK, in or out?</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/OK-in-or-out/m-p/4685913#M177519</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="helvetica" color="#339966"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT size="5"&gt;IN.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2016 12:48:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/OK-in-or-out/m-p/4685913#M177519</guid>
      <dc:creator>fallen-archie</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-20T12:48:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: OK, in or out?</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/OK-in-or-out/m-p/4685914#M177520</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="6" color="#FF00FF"&gt;Out&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2016 12:48:56 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/OK-in-or-out/m-p/4685914#M177520</guid>
      <dc:creator>aandreab1234</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-20T12:48:56Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: OK, in or out?</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/OK-in-or-out/m-p/4685965#M177524</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Shake it all about&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2016 13:13:43 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/OK-in-or-out/m-p/4685965#M177524</guid>
      <dc:creator>suzieseaside</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-20T13:13:43Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: OK, in or out?</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/OK-in-or-out/m-p/4685974#M177525</link>
      <description>Out</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2016 13:15:38 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/OK-in-or-out/m-p/4685974#M177525</guid>
      <dc:creator>******lynda******</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-20T13:15:38Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: OK, in or out?</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/OK-in-or-out/m-p/4685975#M177526</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;...and do the Hokey Cokey&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2016 13:15:57 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/OK-in-or-out/m-p/4685975#M177526</guid>
      <dc:creator>aandreab1234</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-20T13:15:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: OK, in or out?</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/OK-in-or-out/m-p/4686041#M177533</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="arial black,avant garde" size="3" color="#FF0000"&gt;OUT&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2016 13:38:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/OK-in-or-out/m-p/4686041#M177533</guid>
      <dc:creator>dark_castle1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-20T13:38:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: OK, in or out?</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/OK-in-or-out/m-p/4686237#M177547</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;IN&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2016 14:57:44 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/OK-in-or-out/m-p/4686237#M177547</guid>
      <dc:creator>lhasa.two</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-20T14:57:44Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: OK, in or out?</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/OK-in-or-out/m-p/4686252#M177549</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Out!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2016 15:05:15 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/OK-in-or-out/m-p/4686252#M177549</guid>
      <dc:creator>astrologica</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-20T15:05:15Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: OK, in or out?</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/OK-in-or-out/m-p/4686331#M177558</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;OUT !!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2016 15:38:53 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/OK-in-or-out/m-p/4686331#M177558</guid>
      <dc:creator>evoman3957</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-20T15:38:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: OK, in or out?</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/OK-in-or-out/m-p/4686450#M177571</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG alt="Photobucket" src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v115/bearsrme/wollyhattime.gif" border="0" /&gt;&lt;EM&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000ff" face="comic sans ms,sans-serif" size="3"&gt;Out&amp;nbsp; &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2016 16:30:30 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>right-then-petal</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-20T16:30:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: OK, in or out?</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/OK-in-or-out/m-p/4686453#M177572</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Fence&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2016 16:30:56 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/OK-in-or-out/m-p/4686453#M177572</guid>
      <dc:creator>upthecreekyetagain</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-20T16:30:56Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: OK, in or out?</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/OK-in-or-out/m-p/4686467#M177574</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF" face="book antiqua,palatino" size="3"&gt;As people posted, I've been guessing who'd say in or out before I looked and I've not been wrong yet...... Until..... I had you down as IN.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2016 16:37:02 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>cee-dee</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-20T16:37:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: OK, in or out?</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/OK-in-or-out/m-p/4686589#M177581</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;The poll as it stands so far is&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Out = 8&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In = 2&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Abstentions = 1&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Spoiled Votes = 2&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So far it is going against what the paper polls have said.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2016 17:35:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/OK-in-or-out/m-p/4686589#M177581</guid>
      <dc:creator>dark_castle1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-20T17:35:12Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: OK, in or out?</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/OK-in-or-out/m-p/4686671#M177587</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Abstaining for now, I won't make my mind up until I have read enough about the possible or likely consequences of being in the EU or not.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2016 18:17:56 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>suzieseaside</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-20T18:17:56Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: OK, in or out?</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/OK-in-or-out/m-p/4686812#M177593</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I guess plenty of people think a better job can be done, by people other than our current politicians; but at least they are British.&amp;nbsp; Lord knows, at times one wonders if we have anything in common with our fellow countrymen ( we always seem to be split down the middle, 50% wanting one thing &amp;amp; 50% the other )..........but at least we come from the same land, have the same history and have ancestors; that died for the same values.&amp;nbsp; If you want our laws and values made and controlled by a German, Frenchman, Romanian, Hungarian, Poll, Czeck, etc etc.........then vote to stay in the EU.&amp;nbsp; But remember if, in years to come, you don't recognize the country you live in anymore.......don't be surprised.&amp;nbsp; I don't know if this info. is any good, but the more the better before we make this crucial decision.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://fullfact.org/europe/uk-law-what-proportion-influenced-eu/" target="_blank"&gt;https://fullfact.org/europe/uk-law-what-proportion-influenced-eu/&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2016 19:15:14 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>evoman3957</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-20T19:15:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: OK, in or out?</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/OK-in-or-out/m-p/4686987#M177598</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I don't think a poll of RT posters will reflect anything like the national polls are suggesting. Some of us may not even be around by the time a referendum is held. The fact that CD has been able to predict the majority of our answers correctly is not simply a testimony to his intuition but also more obvious given the nature of discussions on here and the snuffing out of opposing views.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;From what I can gather most see the EEC as being responsible for all that is wrong in our country today from the level of immigration to the excessive spending by the bureaucratic machine spawned. You seldom hear much positive feedback as those with vested interests, especially the media, continue to churn out all the negatives they can find.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am ambivalent toward the outcome and can see both points of view, My only hope is that people really think carefully about the future and the direction the world is moving. We are still independent nations who have chosen to develop closer cooperation. As a result there are many petty arguments, each nation jockeying for whatever advantage it can gain. Never really been any different, Still if and when we do seek to leave we can always return to fighting them on the beaches.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2016 20:32:16 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>fallen-archie</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-20T20:32:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: OK, in or out?</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/OK-in-or-out/m-p/4687018#M177601</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I have to say that, even on a wider front, the United Nations must be one of the most&amp;nbsp;dysfunctional organizations ever created. It must just be an organization thing, the bigger they are.......the more useless they are.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2016 20:43:06 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>evoman3957</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-20T20:43:06Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: OK, in or out?</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/OK-in-or-out/m-p/4687085#M177607</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Need to look at the stats more, but in the eu only Germany and France seem to be of any significance, compared to the rag tag hangers on. They need our trade more than we need theirs as far as exports go. The last week has shown what a painful process the EU has become as&amp;nbsp;bureaucratic and wasteful as anything i can remember.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I say OUT&amp;nbsp;&lt;FONT size="1 2 3 4 5 6 7"&gt;&amp;nbsp;except that small coward in me may change their mind at the last mo&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2016 21:04:44 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>start-the-fire</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-20T21:04:44Z</dc:date>
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