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Well what do you think?

merehazle — Fri, 04 Apr 2014 09:11:04 GMT

I think this great cartoon just about sums things up.

And Cameron warmly supports her. Until the voters have their say perhaps.

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queenelsa83 — Fri, 04 Apr 2014 09:30:23 GMT

That's really good, very funny, I love **bleep**-take jokes on anything & everything political 😛

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fionajohnston — Fri, 04 Apr 2014 13:45:35 GMT

from what i gather she co-operate with the enquirery if she was truely sorry she would have ,i think she's only sorry she got caught

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joe_bloggs* — Fri, 04 Apr 2014 14:15:03 GMT

I fought the law... and the law ran away

Maria Miller's scheme was clever
Get a house on the 'never never'
Put it down to 'operating expenses'
Surely nobody could take offences
At a wily politician stretching the rules
(The 'party of the strivers' is not for fools)
Why spend your own cash when the **bleep** can pay
Stuff the rules! (It's the Westminster way)
And if you're caught you needn't worry
Just get up in the house and glibly say 'I'm sorry'

Maria McWorker told a lie
A heinous crime - I'll tell you why
Told her benefit advisor she'd not worked this week
But did a few shifts at the '**bleep** and Leek'
'Benefit Scrounger!' shouted the Daily Mail
'Take away her kids and throw her in jail'
The judge agreed as he banged down his hammer
'Take her down - ten years in the slammer
A politician shook his head and then pointed in the air
'Our economy is broken because of the likes of her
'If I had my way she'd be in chains
Or working 40 hours a week -for her dole - cleaning drains!'

So the moral of this tale is if you're going to stretch the law - make sure you're rich and for god's sake don't be poor. And good old Justice is made a mockery again

Law is for the likes of us... and doesn't apply to 'them'

Re: Well what do you think?

wskneil — Fri, 04 Apr 2014 15:01:30 GMT

Steve Bell, my favourite political cartoonist if I am not mistaken. Now I dont get the grauniad every day I have to remember to go look on his website when I can

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bankhaunter — Fri, 04 Apr 2014 15:49:56 GMT

If she had been on benefits there is a strong chance she would have found herself in court no matter if it was an innocent mistake or not.

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merehazle — Fri, 04 Apr 2014 16:06:34 GMT

@queenelsa83 wrote:
That's really good, very funny, I love **bleep**-take jokes on anything & everything political 😛

Jokes on Anything?! Well here you are Queenie -

OXFORD UNIVERSITY.

And these are a few of the bullingdon boys. And the last time I heard their suits cost over £3,000.

Not smart enough to appear here on the RT though. Notice the classic pose, and the smiles?

And Guess who that fine blond fellow is?

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joe_bloggs* — Fri, 04 Apr 2014 21:23:16 GMT

Looks like it's not over yet:

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/apr/04/maria-miller-expenses-claims-referred-police-labour-mortgage

"Maria Miller is facing growing political pressure after a Labour MP referred her to the police and the parliamentary committee which examined her expenses reissued correspondence which showed how she attempted to fight off an investigation by the standards watchdog"

Nigel Farage told the Telegraph that he thought Miller should be repaying "multiples" of the amount she has been asked to. He added: "I think David Cameron has made a disastrous error of judgment with this … I think Cameron should have asked her to resign and if she hadn't resigned, he should have kicked her out."

The next time someone is banged up for benefit fraud they should just offer to apologise

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merehazle — Sat, 05 Apr 2014 09:20:55 GMT

@joe_bloggs* wrote:
Looks like it's not over yet:

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/apr/04/maria-miller-expenses-claims-referred-police-labour-mortgage

"Maria Miller is facing growing political pressure after a Labour MP referred her to the police and the parliamentary committee which examined her expenses reissued correspondence which showed how she attempted to fight off an investigation by the standards watchdog"

Nigel Farage told the Telegraph that he thought Miller should be repaying "multiples" of the amount she has been asked to. He added: "I think David Cameron has made a disastrous error of judgment with this … I think Cameron should have asked her to resign and if she hadn't resigned, he should have kicked her out."

The next time someone is banged up for benefit fraud they should just offer to apologise

Yes, this whole affair gets seedier by the minute. And the explosion of revulsion is there to see in the Guardian, and all papers. I cant recall so many comments on a story for a long time.

Anyway, as they say a picture says a thousand words. So here is another one:

No wonder she, and all MPs hate the papers.

Go get her, and the rest of them please.

BTW your # 4. The Poet Lord Byron, would I'm sure been proud of that. Excellent!

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merehazle — Sun, 06 Apr 2014 16:39:01 GMT

wskneil wrote:

Steve Bell, my favourite political cartoonist if I am not mistaken. Now I dont get the grauniad every day I have to remember to go look on his website when I can

Does the ''grauniad'' Exist?

Well anyway, your right it is Bell. Sorry, about the delay in replying, but this comment below is another example from the ''Guardian''.

I wont say his name but this is what he said in reply to another comment which said: ''I am supportive of Maria because if we are not careful we will end up with a witch-hunt of somebody.''

This comment is still on there now. And so are 1,343 more comments. Well at least we have at the moment SIX different ones on here. So things are looking up. (wink)

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merehazle — Sun, 06 Apr 2014 16:43:14 GMT

Well, I will try a smaller picture. If that don't work I will write it out.

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joe_bloggs* — Mon, 07 Apr 2014 20:16:38 GMT

Canny article on Scriptonite Daily blog:

Were it not for the relentless pressure of the news media and public campaigns – that would have been the end of the matter for Maria Miller. She cheated, she tried to cover it up, and she kept her job and her profits. For Maria Miller, crime paid.

In contrast, when 22 year old Sacha Hall helped herself to several bags of waste food left out by Tesco after its refrigerators failed – she was immediately arrested, charged with handling stolen goods, and taken to court and given a 12 month conditional discharge. Tesco even admitted there was no value to the food as it was heading to the landfill.

There is truly one rule for them, and one for everyone else.

We have a political system which helps those who help themselves to public money. Corporations and Cabinet members are in cahoots to asset strip the state

– the schools, the hospitals, the libraries, the community centres, the playgrounds, the parks, the housing, even the roads and bridges. They want to commercialise the whole lot – all those things that we built and paid for as a nation, they want to sell and profit from as a tiny elite. We build it, we pay for it, they sell it to their mates at knock down prices and rent it back to us at exorbitant rates.

Don’t get angry, get involved!

Sign the 38 Degrees petition for Maria Miller to face criminal charges.

http://www.scriptonitedaily.com/2014/04/07/maria-miller-another-rotten-apple-in-camerons-cabinet-of-crooks/

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merehazle — Tue, 08 Apr 2014 17:26:18 GMT

Yes, very interesting link. And we have signed.

My turn. They are not even convincing with their evasion. Why do we need a committe of MP's at all when an independent body has alreay decided how much they have to pay back? If the problem is the possibility of legal challenge simply let the rule of Law apply, just as it does in the case of us lesser mortals. Mrs Miller steals either £5,800 or about £45,000, depending on which version you choose, and enjoys the full support of the Prime Minister. Not forgetting the £1.2 million profit she made after selling her Wimbledon home after flippin it for 4 years...made at the taxpayers expense. Yes, look at her smiles now. Cameron & Co, might want her to get away with it, but the public wont. Her arrogance stunk!!! and now I hear she is starting to cringe. Ah if only it might work, it wasn't what you were really like was it Maria Miller? No chance IMO.

Just under £6,000 Yipeeeee!!! good game, good game.

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joe_bloggs* — Tue, 08 Apr 2014 19:16:54 GMT

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wskneil — Wed, 09 Apr 2014 07:59:52 GMT

@merehazle wrote:
@wskneil wrote:
Steve Bell, my favourite political cartoonist if I am not mistaken. Now I dont get the grauniad every day I have to remember to go look on his website when I can

Does the ''grauniad'' Exist?

A deliberate mispelling! (Long time reader of both the Guardian and Private Eye )

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Grauniad

Anyway she has gone with ill grace. Maybe now we should ask the MPs who decided she should only repay £5800 instead of the £48K the commisioner said she should repay, why they thought she should be allowed to trouser £42k of the tax payers money

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merehazle — Wed, 09 Apr 2014 09:01:31 GMT

@wskneil wrote:
@merehazle wrote:
@wskneil wrote:
Steve Bell, my favourite political cartoonist if I am not mistaken. Now I dont get the grauniad every day I have to remember to go look on his website when I can

Does the ''grauniad'' Exist?

A deliberate mispelling! (Long time reader of both the Guardian and Private Eye )

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Grauniad

Anyway she has gone with ill grace. Maybe now we should ask the MPs who decided she should only repay £5800 instead of the £48K the commisioner said she should repay, why they thought she should be allowed to trouser £42k of the tax payers money

Thank you. And she has GONE!!!

Now the attention turns to Cameron. He has shown, time and time again, a complete lack of judgement.

Even in resignation she comes across as an arrogant and defiant woman.

At least she has damaged the Tories, possibly mortally.

Well what's left in the other parties? Hardly anything at all all really. Just the usual PROMISES at election time.

Perhaps NIGEL should have a go?

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joe_bloggs* — Wed, 09 Apr 2014 15:55:23 GMT

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merehazle — Wed, 09 Apr 2014 17:44:48 GMT

@joe_bloggs* wrote:

Yes, that's true.

BTW great cartoon at #14. Is that a Bell cartoon?

Cameron keeps saying: ''I think we should leave it there.'' Hard luck! cammy its just started. And if only you had sacked her you might not be at such a great risk your self. You lot make the rules but it seems only us must keep them. There is talk of severence pay for her? I hope I'm wrong in hearing that.

Carry on please with the BIG cartoons, and we will too, that's a promise. There was a poster who would warn that beware this topic may contain a sence of humour. I forget her name just now. But I see what she said it for TODAY! (wink).

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merehazle — Thu, 10 Apr 2014 15:37:28 GMT

Well just when you think these cartoons cant get any better:

It's a Rowson.

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joe_bloggs* — Thu, 17 Apr 2014 17:30:01 GMT

Someone has got hold of Nigel Farage's expenses claim and posted them on the net!