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CLEGG VS FARAGE.

merehazle — Thu, 27 Mar 2014 15:53:04 GMT

ANY CONCERNS?

Nick Glegg and Nigel Farage, the two British politicians with the most passionately held conflicting views on Europe, traded blow after blow in a debate over Britain's future EU membership yesterday on LBC Radio, and TV. With the first opinion poll suggesting a decisive win for the UKIP leader.

I have more concern for this horse at the moment :

Oh, Just one thingy! Farage said 485 million people have the totally unconditional right to come to the UK.

That does concern me. Then I thought with our leaky border controls the whole world could come here.

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spawnjohnuk — Thu, 27 Mar 2014 18:23:54 GMT

If the whole world comes here ..Im sure they will all be very sorry and scoot home as fast as their lifeboats can take them. I will try and hitch a lift 🙂

A usuless nick clegg vs a not much of an alternative if he gets power nigel.

I will go with nigel because he can't do any worse than the malignant thing in power for the last 30 odd years

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baybizz — Thu, 27 Mar 2014 22:03:48 GMT

UKIP's Nigel Farage emerged triumphant last night with a confident and combative performance in the first of his Euro showdowns...

www.express.co.uk/news/uk/467115/farage-clegg-debate

>> What is happening in the UK today is the culmination of a decades old euro-conspiracy against the British people...

http://www.cycad.com/cgi-bin/Aida/204/204_scam.html

Re: CLEGG VS FARAGE.

spawnjohnuk — Fri, 28 Mar 2014 03:41:18 GMT

If what is happening today is via a conspiricy then that conspiricy is now killing real people,making it not a conspiricy against british people but an actual real threat..

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spawnjohnuk — Fri, 28 Mar 2014 03:42:18 GMT

ps no not a threat... a reality

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spawnjohnuk — Fri, 28 Mar 2014 03:53:48 GMT

pps I dont agree with anything nigel says and I dont want to be out of the EU ,I want a non any of the last 30 yr old bickerers out and a new face in so we can have a referendum and vote against the lying shats on everything from what they wear to making more nuclear anything 🙂

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al**bear — Fri, 28 Mar 2014 06:33:01 GMT

meanwhile

Latest YOUGOV poll on In or out of EU

(3 days ago)

EU Referendum: highest 'Staying In' lead for two years

http://yougov.co.uk/news/2014/03/26/eu-referendum-highest-lead-two-years/

Re: CLEGG VS FARAGE.

merehazle — Fri, 28 Mar 2014 10:05:27 GMT

@spawnjohnuk wrote:
If the whole world comes here ..Im sure they will all be very sorry and scoot home as fast as their lifeboats can take them. I will try and hitch a lift 🙂
A usuless nick clegg vs a not much of an alternative if he gets power nigel.
I will go with nigel because he can't do any worse than the malignant thing in power for the last 30 odd years

Yes, we've had decades of politicians setting the agenda and leading from the front, and yet the demise of the UK as expressed by the culture of its people and its institutions continues relentlessly. I don't remember voting for uncontrolled immigration, the sell off of the railways, or the post office, Or badger culling. Or the opening up of the NHS to the private market. Or the Iraq war. What is British about any of this? We need to hold our politicians legally accountable to their manifestos otherwise its not worth voting.

But there will be a change in our country: our politicians either listen and look after the interests of the majority of normal British people, or there will be a violent adjustment in time. We are living in a world where resources are stretched, and when debt payback bites, and people start to suffer the consequences.

There is nothing racist in telling the truth and being loyal to Great Britain.

#3 babizz - yes, an yes. Eward Heath - ''TED THE TRAITOR'' as tabloids baptised him. Traitors are quite common now IMO.

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queenelsa83 — Fri, 28 Mar 2014 10:38:59 GMT

I didn't watch it personally, although I'm starting to wish I had for a really good laugh 😛

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spawnjohnuk — Fri, 28 Mar 2014 11:33:58 GMT

which bit would have been funny ?

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mustard-tree — Fri, 28 Mar 2014 11:43:38 GMT

Anyone who wants to see it, you can here

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b040w8x9/Nick_Clegg_and_Nigel_Farage_Debate/

Re: CLEGG VS FARAGE.

baybizz — Fri, 28 Mar 2014 17:18:04 GMT

The EU is one of the biggest con-tricks in history - The Monumental Deceit: How our politicians have lied and lied about the true purpose of the European behemoth...

"...the plan was that it should be gradually constructed, piece by stealthy piece, without ever declaring too openly what was intended to be its ultimate goal..."

article-2255506/eu-monumental-deceit

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spawnjohnuk — Sat, 29 Mar 2014 04:54:32 GMT

The EU is a platform for business ,its so far created less poverty in the world than has ever been seen before in history ,by redistributing wealth...as this country was one of the very wealthy then the poorer here lost out (did you expect the rich number counters to take the hit ?) the answer is yes as thats the idea.

The only problem the UK has is greedy millionaires and nothing whatsoever to do with us being in the EU. In fact if we were in the EU and all it meant 100% we would all be living better, but our (lol) politicians have opted out of signing the little bits thats best for us all for the bits thats best (or a quick buck) for themselves.

We should demand in and sign up for the whole deal ,especially the peoples charter bit that the greed machine over here point blank refuses to sign on our behalf.

what we have now is being sold off to anyone rather than helping the euro steady and become a currency to be reckond with as was the plan.

Out of the EU will not mean a redistribution of wealth to british people because the firms that own us are mainly forign investers or greedy B's over here. Out will mean the eradication of lower classes and I dont mean all will get richer (I point you in the direction of worker IDS)

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spawnjohnuk — Sat, 29 Mar 2014 05:08:11 GMT

ps when I say all would be living better...I mean all except those number counters who obviously would have a few less 0's , they of course would starve in the streets with only a few millon left 🙂

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electric*mayhem*band — Sat, 29 Mar 2014 18:25:12 GMT

Yes, it's nearly time for the removal van to arrive at No 10, and transport Dismal Dave back to his little pied-a-terre in Notting Hill, and let Naughty-but-Nice Nigel move in.

Of course if he does choose this option, it means that he waves a fond farewell to his £6,000 per month that he rakes in for renting it out. Failing that, I suppose he could always scuttle off back to his pile in the Cotswolds.

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guardpig — Wed, 02 Apr 2014 10:18:12 GMT

Redistribution of wealth helps no one, except as dependants.

In or out of the EU is an issue that cannot be decided except by honest debate. The EU is not what the voters were told they were signing up for in the old common market days so the voters should get a say. It could be the majority want to go for the full EU superstate deal, it could be they are too scared to vote NO, it could be they are too scared to vote YES, it could be they want out. mostly I think they want honesty, clarity and a referendum.

If a referendum was held tomorrow I think the INs would slide home - just. Mainly because people are scared of going it alone and the politicians are ensuring we stay that way. Just my opinion.

Go, go, go Nigel. Engage the electorate. Galvanise the political classes. Enjoy yourself. Get the voters out voting next year(whoever they decide to vote for)..

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spawnjohnuk — Wed, 02 Apr 2014 12:28:38 GMT

redistribution of wealth certainly does help everyone...ask poland for instance .

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queenelsa83 — Wed, 02 Apr 2014 13:41:35 GMT

Just the parts when they start speaking (or should that be shouting) over one another constantly mainly 😛 🙂

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spawnjohnuk — Wed, 02 Apr 2014 13:46:22 GMT

A pair of prats indeed, but one has no thought for the you and I's the other is waiting for the chance to not care about the you's and I;s ,but the chance to see if there can be change is well worth the punt

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guardpig — Wed, 02 Apr 2014 15:43:52 GMT

@spawnjohnuk wrote:
A pair of prats indeed, but one has no thought for the you and I's the other is waiting for the chance to not care about the you's and I;s ,but the chance to see if there can be change is well worth the punt

I do agree with you - change is on it's way, maybe. The chance of a real change is there. I would give UKIP an outside chance to be in with a shot at changing things and if they get the shot they will have a window of possibly 2 years to make the change before the status quo beats them into submission. Interesting times could be round the corner but then they might not.

Occasionally i get this nightmare feeling that come the next election UKIP could be asked to form the next Government. Now that would be somewhere well beyond interesting.

: Mind you I might go put a bet on just in case.