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    <title>topic Re: Royal Mail shares in The Round Table</title>
    <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/Royal-Mail-shares/m-p/2256130#M108170</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;The question is was the issue significantly under priced prior to issue date.Given the general media consensus at that point the answer would appear to be in the affirmative. This is confirmed by joe public who were quite happy to offer up their cash in the relatively confident expectation of seeing an instant return on their cash, supported by past history and a nod and a wink on how these things unfold. Even those who have not bought any shares before would have been quite content to do so with the unstated assurance, there was little downside risk and had probably placed pre orders on their new ipad in full expectation.Free cash here-apply within&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Regarding the larger picture, if I take the higher of the pension shortfall figures, the government has committed something like £11 billion or say $17 billion to enable the much smaller issue to take place - enough to have bought twitter outright at its initial offer price with cash left over.Thats public funds being transferred to others on a non means tested basis.Had I labelled that 'benefit' it would have made some apoplectic, yet its still public money, given&lt;BR /&gt;away for no apparent 'need' other than to be swilling in the trough come feeding time.Some may comeback to Conservative party funds through donations of gratitude, by larger feeders at the trough of course, but that isnt the&lt;BR /&gt;only level of self interest by the current administration. Having cleared the matter with EC competition rulings the government get to take on the RM funded pension scheme, shortfall and all, some estimated £28 billion in real liquid assets, and turn it into an unfunded scheme, paid out of general taxation, leaving them with what even the good old Daily Mail was frothing at the mouth over, a 'windfall'; as they put it of up to £28 billion of jam today, for everyone else to pay for tomorrow.&lt;BR /&gt;So, , quite a lot get to feed at the trough at various levels, whilst the long term liabilities for all are racked up, but then that's another day, and another administration&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sat, 09 Nov 2013 17:33:23 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>lost.parrot</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-11-09T17:33:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Royal Mail shares</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/Royal-Mail-shares/m-p/2076200#M105370</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Anyone applied for any?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I've applied,not sure how many i'll get,if any.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 07 Oct 2013 18:51:37 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>charliebird123</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-10-07T18:51:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Royal Mail shares</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/Royal-Mail-shares/m-p/2076244#M105371</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I've applied, thought it was worth a punt &lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://community.ebay.co.uk/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.png" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 07 Oct 2013 18:54:55 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>angelah1847</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-10-07T18:54:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Royal Mail shares</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/Royal-Mail-shares/m-p/2077266#M105385</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Snap!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 07 Oct 2013 21:21:36 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/Royal-Mail-shares/m-p/2077266#M105385</guid>
      <dc:creator>upthecreekyetagain</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-10-07T21:21:36Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Royal Mail shares</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/Royal-Mail-shares/m-p/2077636#M105395</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Think half the country has applied.&lt;img id="manlol" class="emoticon emoticon-manlol" src="https://community.ebay.co.uk/i/smilies/16x16_man-lol.png" alt="Man LOL" title="Man LOL" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 07 Oct 2013 22:25:28 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/Royal-Mail-shares/m-p/2077636#M105395</guid>
      <dc:creator>charliebird123</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-10-07T22:25:28Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Royal Mail shares</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/Royal-Mail-shares/m-p/2077724#M105398</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Think half the country has applied.&lt;IMG title="Man LOL" alt=":manlol:" border="0" src="http://ebay04.i.lithium.com/i/smilies/16x16_man-lol.png" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;£750 being the minimum ammount the public can buy,I wouldn't think so&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 07 Oct 2013 22:46:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/Royal-Mail-shares/m-p/2077724#M105398</guid>
      <dc:creator>joe_bloggs*</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-10-07T22:46:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Royal Mail shares</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/Royal-Mail-shares/m-p/2077938#M105402</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Well meybe just&amp;nbsp; a quarter then eh ?&lt;img id="manwink" class="emoticon emoticon-manwink" src="https://community.ebay.co.uk/i/smilies/16x16_man-wink.png" alt="Man Wink" title="Man Wink" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Oct 2013 00:31:36 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/Royal-Mail-shares/m-p/2077938#M105402</guid>
      <dc:creator>charliebird123</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-10-08T00:31:36Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Royal Mail shares</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/Royal-Mail-shares/m-p/2078064#M105407</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Another disgusting giveaway by the Tories, most to their Pals in the City&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;All our nationalised industries sold for under market value, with the poorest getting NOTHING&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Oct 2013 05:18:57 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/Royal-Mail-shares/m-p/2078064#M105407</guid>
      <dc:creator>al**bear</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-10-08T05:18:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Royal Mail shares</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/Royal-Mail-shares/m-p/2089152#M105557</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;So, massively oversubscribed , Government undervalues another of our assets, looks set to be priced at £3.30, but already trading on grey market at&amp;nbsp; £4.00&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Oct 2013 05:01:45 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/Royal-Mail-shares/m-p/2089152#M105557</guid>
      <dc:creator>al**bear</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-10-10T05:01:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Royal Mail shares</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/Royal-Mail-shares/m-p/2092408#M105591</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Just been announced £3.30 per share.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A target="_blank" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-24480450"&gt;http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-24480450&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Oct 2013 16:43:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/Royal-Mail-shares/m-p/2092408#M105591</guid>
      <dc:creator>charliebird123</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-10-10T16:43:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Royal Mail shares</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/Royal-Mail-shares/m-p/2092580#M105594</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Usually undervalued to allow a few snouts in the trough&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Oct 2013 17:11:54 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/Royal-Mail-shares/m-p/2092580#M105594</guid>
      <dc:creator>lost.parrot</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-10-10T17:11:54Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Royal Mail shares</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/Royal-Mail-shares/m-p/2092928#M105603</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG align="middle" title="BUB07-CCEAA0Q3n.png large.png" alt="BUB07-CCEAA0Q3n.png large.png" src="https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/10946iA0F8195BD6F3B6CE/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&amp;amp;px=-1" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Oct 2013 18:15:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/Royal-Mail-shares/m-p/2092928#M105603</guid>
      <dc:creator>joe_bloggs*</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-10-10T18:15:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Royal Mail shares</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/Royal-Mail-shares/m-p/2094612#M105637</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;227 shares allocated.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A target="_blank" href="https://www.gov.uk/royalmailshares"&gt;https://www.gov.uk/royalmailshares&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Oct 2013 23:22:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/Royal-Mail-shares/m-p/2094612#M105637</guid>
      <dc:creator>charliebird123</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-10-10T23:22:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Royal Mail shares</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/Royal-Mail-shares/m-p/2095058#M105650</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;A National disgrace , in a time of Cuts, the Tories line the pockets of the City again&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;SHARES now trading at £4.52&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2013 07:07:08 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>al**bear</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-10-11T07:07:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Royal Mail shares</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/Royal-Mail-shares/m-p/2109046#M105854</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hedge fund Lansdowne made £20 million from Royal Mail flotation overnight. Its founder Paul Ruddock funds the Tory Party and was put forward for a&amp;nbsp; Knighthood by David Cameron&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Oct 2013 05:58:31 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>al**bear</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-10-14T05:58:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Royal Mail shares</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/Royal-Mail-shares/m-p/2109462#M105861</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;So some people buy shares for £3.50 each&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hypothetically, in time, these shares rise to £10 each&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The advisors tell people to sell now before the price drops.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Seems logical, but who do they sell them to, who would want them at that price, when the same advisors are telling people not to buy them yet, but wait until the price drops.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Or am I missing something, and it is not as simple as that&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Oct 2013 09:19:30 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>mustard-tree</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-10-14T09:19:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Royal Mail shares</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/Royal-Mail-shares/m-p/2114142#M105900</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Shares soar on first sales on open market&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;already at £4.81&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;More of our assests given away on the cheap&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;and no sign of shame from the Toffs in power, handing their mates, yet more £millions&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 15 Oct 2013 07:11:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/Royal-Mail-shares/m-p/2114142#M105900</guid>
      <dc:creator>al**bear</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-10-15T07:11:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Royal Mail shares</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/Royal-Mail-shares/m-p/2115472#M105920</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/3317835"&gt;@al**bear&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Shares soar on first sales on open market&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;already at £4.81&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;More of our assests given away on the cheap&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;and no sign of shame from the Toffs in power, handing their mates, yet more £millions&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;That's just over £12,000 per PO employee.(they were all given 2,500 shares each).&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Many of the shares will have been bought up by pension funds which help people with company pensions so I can't see a problem with that.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 15 Oct 2013 12:03:48 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>lhasa.two</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-10-15T12:03:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Royal Mail shares</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/Royal-Mail-shares/m-p/2119008#M105965</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Shares should be sold at the correct price and as an Investment, for FUTURE growth, not sold cheap, so they can sold for a quick buck by spivs&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 16 Oct 2013 05:40:08 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>al**bear</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-10-16T05:40:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Royal Mail shares</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/Royal-Mail-shares/m-p/2122932#M106015</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;The latest designs for the newly privatised Royal Mail’s 1st and 2nd class stamps have been unveiled – along with the new company logo.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The compositions are meant to reflect the &lt;A target="_blank" href="http://www.arabianbusiness.com/abu-dhabi-kuwait-see-windfall-from-uk-s-royal-mail-sell-off-523011.html#.Ul24rVCmYto"&gt;international flavour of the recently privatised company’s new owners&lt;/A&gt;:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG src="https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/11894iA80F03DCFEEFD27F/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&amp;amp;px=-1" align="middle" border="0" title="royal-kuwait-mail.png" alt="royal-kuwait-mail.png" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 16 Oct 2013 18:40:30 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>joe_bloggs*</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-10-16T18:40:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Royal Mail shares</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/The-Round-Table/Royal-Mail-shares/m-p/2124384#M106039</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/3317835"&gt;@al**bear&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Shares should be sold at the correct price and as an Investment, for FUTURE growth, not sold cheap, so they can sold for a quick buck by spivs&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Yes, it will be interesting to see how many Royal Mail staff have confidence in their own company - they were all given 725 shares each, free - and how many cash them in.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Will they be toffs or spivs or investors?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 17 Oct 2013 00:04:54 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>sir_arthur_strebe-grebling</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-10-17T00:04:54Z</dc:date>
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