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VAT added to my listing on a resale item as a private seller used for personal use
I've listed a piece of music production software for sale that I had to pay tax on when I bought it, however once I listed the item, ebay automatically applied VAT to my listing, which seems a bit unfair and my item is now for sale at a far less competitive price than I intended to list it at, which is £200. When ebay adds it's buyer protection fee then VAT, suddenly my listing is £254. That is a massively inflated rate.
I have a private account and this might be the first piece of software that i've actually tried to sell. I'm certainly not a trader, I just occasionally sell random unwanted stuff that I don't use anymore, so this seems draconian.
Is the VAT applied to all software sales from every seller, or is this something I can somehow do something about?
jiglo1
OP11 months agoI've since looked at ebay Classified Ads and it doesn't even mention software https://www.ebay.co.uk/help/selling/listings/listing-tips/selling-classified-ads?id=4167
As it outside of ebay too then a buyer and seller has no protection.
Is it still possible to speak to a person at ebay? I remember the golden age of the concierge when things were much simpler.
tobiasd4
Mentor11 months agoYou can't sell software via classified ad.
papso22
Mentor11 months agoI think you can, in the 'everything else information category'. I think it counts as 'electronically delivered'.
tobiasd4
Mentor11 months agoVAT is not added to item.
As a private seller, ebay charge buyers a buyer protection fee.
It is this fee that VAT is applied to.
jiglo1
OP11 months agoActually, the listing was for £200, then ebay added £8 something buyer protection, then it added VAT on top. So eventually the listing was £254.
It's a moot point now as the listing was closed. The rules seem to only apply to me though as there are hundreds/thousands of software listings still active, perhaps others taking the same path as I did, ie typing what I was selling and using a template that ebay provided to a previously listed sale and updating it with information relating to personalise my sale.
tobiasd4
Mentor11 months agohttps://www.ebay.co.uk/help/buying/paying-items/buyer-protection-fee?id=5594
See here for details of BPF.
jiglo1
OP11 months agoYes, i've no qualms with Buyer Protection. I have perfect feedback from sending things promptly a keeping buyers updated and I buy things myself and know that not everybody is quite as reliable and probably pay a lot more than I do, but I enjoy the security of it. Ebay also has to take it's cut. I was answering a question that was trying to suggest that my item didn't have VAT added on top, which it did.
plpmr
Mentor11 months agoEverything else aside you cannot sell that digital download as doing so violates eBay rules.
jiglo1
OP11 months agoDuplicate post.
jiglo1
OP11 months agoHi, can I ask which rule it breaks please? I ask as I see many of these for sale at the moment and I’m sure hundreds must have been sold over the years, so I would welcome clarity before removing or relisting in a different way.
tobiasd4
Mentor11 months agoSee here:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/help/policies/prohibited-restricted-items/electronically-delivered-items-policy?id=4289&st=3&pos=1&query=Electronically%20delivered%20items%20policy&intent=digital&lucenceai=lucenceai&docId=HELP1191
jiglo1
OP11 months agoOk, thank you, but as Ableton allows transfer of ownership and I’m not selling a key or duplicate, then it looks to me that it isn’t listed as an item that can’t be sold, just that my listing perhaps needs changing to a different category.
jiglo1
OP11 months agoAs the information above about me selling a licence transfer is incorrect, can I get back on topic please and ask if eBay charges everybody VAT for selling software, even private sellers who have already paid VAT on the item?
papso22
Mentor11 months agoCan you provide a screenshot of the page showing VAT being charged?
Surely when you realised you had to have a postage/collection option that would have indicated a problem with an item you are selling for downloading?
It needs to be a classified advert in the information category. As it is, a buyer could get the download activated and then make a claim for item not received. They are guaranteed a refund as you wouldn't be able to prove delivery.
jiglo1
OP11 months agoUnfortunately I can’t as a member here has closed my listing. I assumed it to be a problem with eBay rather than the item for sale. Lots of people are selling the same product, a license transfer. As Ableton perform the transfer themselves they inform the previous owner that the transfer has happened and the new owner, so that base is covered along with pm’s
jiglo1
OP11 months agoOk, so somebody has taken it upon themselves to remove my listing. I accept it needs relisting in a different category, but the information provided in this thread has been incorrect.