Fake Signed Prints by Picasso, Dali, Warhol and others
Summary: 5779gary warns about fraudulent art prints being sold as hand-signed by famous artists like Picasso, Dali, and Warhol. These listings, primarily from an eBay seller and a related website, include fake Certificates of Authenticity and appraisals. 5779gary cautions against buying these prints and urges those who have purchased them to seek refunds. tressygirl expresses disbelief at the notion of obtaining genuine signed prints at low prices. jonatjonatjonat clarifies the timeframe for claims on eBay and suggests checking with payment providers for alternative recourse.
Please beware...There are a number of sellers listing art prints claiming they are hand signed by the artist. Mainly Picasso but also Dali, Warhol and others. They have a Certificate of Authenticity and Valuation Appraisal. The source seems to be the ebay seller Art National Gallery. They also have a website (same name). The signatures on the prints are ALL forgeries (and the prints probably just colour copies). The "valuation" is from proartappraisal which seems to be a sham website set up just to facilitate this scam. The sellers have dozens of these "signed" prints (and are usually not listing any other items). No genuine art dealer would have this number of similar prints. The prices are around a couple of hundred USD with offers. The "valuation" is usually 3,500 USD. This is about right for a genuine signed PIcasso print. Feedback for these sellers show they have sold hundreds of the prints totaling many tens of thousands USD. Art National Gallery claim an Edinburgh UK address but this is fake. Proartappraisal claim a Wolverhampton UK address but this is fake. Because I've viewed the prints I'm getting even more ridiculous offers. Down to around 100 USD plus 2 for 1 (another free signed print). The COA and valuation documents do look reasonable but they are worthless. Please don't buy any of these. If you have purchased, please make a claim with the seller and ebay for your money back (no matter how long ago the purchase). If you look out for the low price, high valuation and reference to Art National Gallery the fakes are easy to spot. Sellers seem to be using the same photos and descriptions. Please don't get caught.
jonatjonatjonat
·3 weeks agoOnly thing to note on this. You won’t be able to claim via eBay ‘no matter how long ago the purchase’. You would have 30 days from delivery. No more.
After that you might have more time to claim via your payment provider
5779gary
OP3 weeks agoThanks, that's helpful. I assumed ebay's 30 day period was for normal activity and not illegal listings.
tressygirl
·3 weeks agoThank you for the warning and yes there are unfortunately many fakes sold on eBay and elsewhere online.
Truly though , do peeps really think they can get a print with a ' Genuine' signature by Picasso for a mere few thousand pounds / dollars ,when his paintings sell for hundreds of millions ?
@5779gary