New EU 3€ charge. Are Ebay going to help?
Summary: The discussion revolves around the new €3 charge on parcels sent to the EU and its implications for sellers using platforms like eBay. tribetrade raised concerns about whether eBay will collect this fee, a question that prompted responses detailing how the charge applies regardless of the IOSS scheme or the country of origin. Participants debated if the charge should be collected by eBay along with the VAT and highlighted contradictions in official guidance from eBay versus the EU. Some suggested using Global Shipping to simplify compliance, though others argued against it due to high costs. Sellers expressed concerns about the impact on business, particularly for low-value items, and noted that the charge applies to all non-EU countries, with many opting to block EU sales until further clarification. Overall, the sentiment indicated frustration and uncertainty, with differing views on how best to adapt to the new regulations.
We have all been informed that as of wednesday 1st July every item line of every parcel we send to the EU will have a €3 charge. Are Ebay going to collect this from us of the customer ? Are they going to pay it? will they deduct it along with VAT? or do we send everything DDP so that we have VAT deducted for a second time by royal Mail.?
HELP
Tim
davetheshoe
·1 month agoNot Worth The Hassle have now stopped shipping to all EU countries plus with this new handling charge
of £2/£3 on top coming in in November that would have put the tin hat on it anyway
hswalsh
·2 months agoFor anyone who isn't aware sending under MTK or MP7 services on account with Royal Mail the following EU countries don't accept shipments via DDU - Denmark, Germany or Luxembourg. The following EU contries don't accept shipments via IOSS - Greece or Romania.
Setting up postage modules to cover the above is virtually impossible.
Duetsche Post (DHL Post) also don't accept shipments via DDU any longer and only take DDP shipments to the EU.
You can continue, for now at least, to send via courier to the EU via DDU services but the customer generally gets a nasty shock when having to clear the shipment which for eBay sales generally isn't worth the effort.
Can't wait for 2028!
The EU's 2028 reforms overhaul the Import One-Stop Shop (IOSS) framework by eliminating the €150 relief threshold, introducing strict anti-fraud tracking, and shifting collection duties directly to online marketplaces and sellers.
deverefineart
·3 months agoIf you use Ebay's GSP all import duties and taxes are included automatically in the invoice sent to the buyer.
bricklanebargains
·3 months agoI think this is the final nail in the coffin for sales to the EU. There was a time when our international sales constituted around %25 of our total sales volume. Not anymore thanks to Brexit, Trump tariffs and now this 3 euro fee per parcel. I remember some people saying things like "Europe needs us more than we need them". Well if that was true, they wouldn`t be slapping tariffs on UK businesses just like that.
sml192
·3 months agoThe charge applies to all non-EU countries, not just the UK, and is mainly aimed at reducing the number of cheap/unsafe imports from a certain other country and thereby creating a more level playing field for EU businesses.
ett1954
·3 months ago".... is mainly aimed at reducing the number of cheap/unsafe imports from a certain other country and thereby creating a more level playing field for EU businesses." - Don't think this is going to work, do you?
Shein and Temu are drastically scaling up their European networks. Shein launched a massive 740,000-square-metre automated logistics hub in Wrocław, Poland. Temu uses Budapest, Hungary as a primary distribution hub. Both built these centres to cut down delivery times and avoid new customs fees.
I also hear Alibaba is doing the same . The Chinese are smarter and faster than the EU politicians and legislators. Nothing coming out of these centres will attract the €3.00 fee. The only people that will suffer because of this legislation will be the small and medium non-EU business sellers; however the drop-shippers selling this tat will have a field day.
tommystrezures
·3 months agoI cannot be bothered to read through all this nested threads which are all over the place, so in short I have just been to our local PO to send parcels to Spain. At the counter I was offered the choice of the Incoterms DDP or DDU (eg duty paid or not) So the item was sent tracked at the normal RM rate, with duty to be paid by recipient (eg DDU). There was no additional charge for the Royal Mail service either.
millyscameras
·3 months agoWould be nice for eBay to allow us, (sellers) an option to charge all taxes to the customer at the POS. Adding it to postage, for US and EU is at best a "cowboy" approach. Can you imagine having to collect UK VAT this way.
fribblecollectables
·3 months ago · EditedJust got to make sure the postage we charge the customer reflects our actual costs, if we wish to recover them.
For example, a £10.01 item sent as a 500g Royal Mail International Tracked parcel to France, assuming a non-VAT-registered seller and 70p worth of packaging:
Royal Mail postage - £10.85
EU duty - €3, approx. £2.58
Royal Mail PDDP handling fee - £1.00
Packaging - £0.70
eBay fixed order fee - £0.40
Then there are eBay percentage fees on the total order, including the item price and postage.
In this example I am using:
eBay final value fee - 10.9%
Regulatory operating fee - 0.35%
International fee for EU - 1.05%
That gives a combined eBay percentage of 12.3%, although the final value fee can vary depending on category and seller circumstances.
On a £10.01 item with £19.11 postage, the total order would be £29.12. The 12.3% eBay percentage fee would be about £3.58, plus the 40p fixed order fee.
So very roughly, I would need to charge about £19.11 postage to send this example parcel to France if I wished to cover the Royal Mail postage, EU duty, PDDP handling fee, packaging, and the eBay fees taken from the full order amount.
In practice I would probably round that to £19.50.
Of course, it is up to each seller whether they want to recover all of those costs from the buyer or absorb some of them.
The figure will also vary depending on item category, destination country, postage service, seller status, shop subscription, promoted listings, and any other eBay fees that apply.
Assuming seller is business seller. (Private sellers and incorrectly registered 'business' sellers will have differing fees).
watchfan700uk
·3 months agoJust got to make sure the postage we charge the customer reflects our actual costs, if we wish to recover them.
OK - so how can you set different shipping rates for EU vs Europe?
If you want a French buyer to see the pumped up rate
and a Swiss/Norway buyer to see another rate?
watchfan700uk
·3 months agoRight - I have just paid the 3 euro duty plus admin fee (£1) via RM c and d
sent int standard
I am turning my eu listings back on and will have to absorb the cost.
bzmotman
·3 months agoDid the postage label show IOSS or PDDP?
When I did a test label yesterday it still showed IOSS but I was anticipating seeing PDDP. It may well be that I am wrong.
Do you use C&D linked to your RM OBA with the €3 fee being charged to the OBA or did you pay up front.
Thanks for any help.
watchfan700uk
·3 months agoIt showed PDDP.
I do not have an OBA
petyalamqta
·3 months agoyou have to buy the postage via Royal Mail web page and use Delivery Duty Unpaid (DDU)...that means buyer pay the 3 euro on delivery
sml192
·3 months ago · EditedYes, the postage needs to be purchased direct with Royal Mail at the moment, not through eBay, but I don't think you can use DDU in conjunction with IOSS for most EU countries, it has to be PDDP. There are some countries where DDU has to be used instead at present and currently eBay sales to Greece and Romania can't be sent with Royal Mail at all, unless you have a business account and are able to use one of the services compatible with DTP.
Eventially the intention is for it all to be dealt with by the IOSS holder but that hasn't been implemented yet. All in all it's a bit of a mess at the moment to say the least.
watchfan700uk
·3 months agoI changed my mind - I cannot find a way to add those 3 euro plus handling charge to the postage rates ONLY for EU buyers.
So stuff it - no more EU sales until ebay sort something out.
Im not that bothered anyway as most of my INRs come from the EU. My sales to USA, Canada, Australia, and other prime locations is good and I am getting close to the vat limit anyway - so I can afford to drop my EU sales.
bzmotman
·3 months ago"I changed my mind - I cannot find a way to add those 3 euro plus handling charge to the postage rates ONLY for EU buyers."
@watchfan700uk The way to do it seems to me to add an additional international postage service, choose which International Service you use then select destination & just choose EU then enter your new EU enhanced rate.
Happy to be corrected and I don't know how to do it in bulk but no doubt someone will be able to tell me.
petyalamqta
·3 months agoYes you can at the bottom Royal Mail web says:
"Customs and handling fees will apply for your chosen destination, the recipient will need to pay any fees on receipt of delivery."
bzmotman
·3 months ago"you have to buy the postage via Royal Mail web page and use Delivery Duty Unpaid (DDU)...that means buyer pay the 3 euro on delivery"
For anyone reading this thread who uses a RM OBA this is completely wrong information .
As of today, July 3rd, RM have activated 2 options within C&D linked to OBA one of which is to pay the tax via IOSS and have the new charge plus RM fee debited to your OBA account. You either set up this option as your default choice for EU postage via the Customs icon in Settings or you can do it on an individual basis from within "Review Customs Information" where it is under "Order information".
This link takes you to the RM page about it https://help.parcel.royalmail.com/hc/en-gb/articles/34272945160605-How-to-configure-customs-and-handling-fees-for-international-orders
petyalamqta
·3 months agoI never do that....I'll cancel the order but will not pay 3 euro
watchfan700uk
·3 months agoI have just blocked all EU countries - until there is some clarification.
I have a few orders outstanding so will send those and see what happens - it may be that they will be delivered anyway as non payment of the 3 euro charge means the item will be sent back and the EU will lose the vat once we have refunded via ebay. Let's see what they do.
awa.uk.vr88b3g
·3 months agoEven after reading the EU document provided by eBay, I feel we're collateral damage in a Chinese (Temu & Shein) export prevention scheme. I'm a hopefully model and usually silent seller in the vintage railway ticket area who is proud to have worked in normal employment in the UK, Netherlands, Italy and Switzerland prior to retirement, learning in all of them and meeting wonderful people along the way.
Vintage tickets aren't as you might imagine Victorian and pre-WWII issues (which have other niche sellers) but those tickets I knew so well as young adult, and I estimate i have about 4% of the listings for my specialities. From 2016 onwards following some experience with my old concert tickets I had a thriving trade in Swiss tickets (still from £1.49) going to Switzerland, the UK, Germany, Austria and Italy, though strangely not France. GSP is simply not suitable for £1.49 items, and direct mail UK to Italy was experiencing random severe delays already.
Brexit reduced that to about one-third of previous volumes as my customers were landed with 20% to 28% VAT and I was landed with CN22 forms etc and ever-rising Royal Mail prices, but on principle I kept at it until today and use the eBay Seller Hub software to automatically grant both UK and overseas sellers further items (beyond the first) at 5p extra postage.
Sadly, an unusual Swiss ticket with £2.53 to me sent to Germany via Royal Mail at £3.60 shipping last Monday (29th) will be the last for the time being, though I'm keeping faith with Switzerland, Norway, other countries and even the USA where I've expected problems but eBay or the customer has coped. I know all the 27 EU countries and their enclaves by heart and removed them all individually via my Posting Policies. A very sad day indeed, sprung on us. Good luck to eBay staff who will no doubt do their best, here's hoping for better times to come.
Alan
petyalamqta
·3 months agoThis is nothing to related to Temu or China....these are money that Eu need because they are broke (because of Ukraine)
whisky_and_bourbon_breweriana
·3 months agoWill be interesting to see what solution, if any, Ebay comes up with for UK to EU sales. The exisiting charges make some of my sales look horrrendous value now when I see what someone in the EU has to pay, and after ebay takes it's charges on the IOSS levy on top, what is left for us these days is minimal. Add in the ever increasing postage charges and it's no surprise so many are giving up. The margins on some of our items are so low now.
I will likely shut off EU sales if this is not a charge Ebay deals with like IOSS.
sml192
·3 months agoEbay has stated in their announcement that they won't be collecting the charge unless the item is sent via the GSP.
petyalamqta
·3 months agoThey not collecting it because they are not ready with implementation....
whisky_and_bourbon_breweriana
·3 months agoI know they have said that but that is not how the EU is looking at it- "the legal responsibility for ensuring the new €3 EU customs duty is properly paid falls on online marketplaces and platforms, which are treated as the "deemed importer."
petyalamqta
·3 months ago · EditedI expected that long time ago....all the money spent to Ukraine has to collected from the sheep that live in EU...and expect more and more taxes and fees in the future
watchfan700uk
·3 months agoThe EU is a protectionist trade block and we are outside of it. I expect there will be more regs coming up - like the ridiculous packing waste fees charged by the German authorities. They will dream up more reasons to exclude non eu goods.
lsrworkshop
·3 months agoI forgot I had some listing still with international postage and made a sale for 2 programming cables to be sent to Ireland.
Original cables sell price = £10.44
Postage = £4.42
VAT = £3.30
Discount = -£0.52 (Promo)
Order total = £17.64
So buyer is in at this point £17.64 and eBay show my earning as £11.24 (no postage taken into account yet)
So off I popped to Royal Mail Click & Drop, selected to pay through IOSS and pay the duties through Click & Drop and the bill went from £3.70 (base international postage) to £7.28 with new fees. Now I could have selected buyer pays all fees but I can see where that was heading, either they pay the fee and give me bad feedback or other grief, or simply not pay it and I get the item returned to sender resulting in losing more money.
Anyway to conclude my rant, I made £3.96 at the end, taking out product cost I made £1.50.
It's a horrible deal for the buyer and pointless deal for me the seller.
As is Ill await the dust to settle and not sell internationally anymore, hopefully something will change to improve the situation, as is, it's pointless selling low priced items to the EU not to mention the headache of the packaging directive the EU is trying to push on sellers for even more tax. Need to have a degree in law to navigate all this red tape soon.
petyalamqta
·3 months ago · EditedNot correct....you pay again £3.70 to Royal Mail but buyer have to pay fee of £3 to release the parcel from the custom...
eBay just was not ready to implement that fee...
When eBay is ready they will collect that £3 fee from the buyer automatically and it will not count as your profit ..
and sorry to tell your that there will be no improvement ....EU is broke so they will do anything to strip more and more money from the people to pay to Ukraine
whisky_and_bourbon_breweriana
·3 months agoyeah, Ebay will want to take the €3 handling fee (its Euro not GBP) becuase they will then do their usual and apply all fees to this amount to take more off the seller too.
there is a handling fee coming on top of this in due course so selling to EU is going to get non-sensical for low value items from the UK. The target for this is all the cheap stuff from China but its also clearly a money grab by the EU and countries.
watchfan700uk
·3 months agoDoes this 3 euro charge also apply to Chinese sellers shipping from China to EU?
If so it has the potential to wipe out billions of online sales.
sml192
·3 months ago · EditedYes, it applies to all non-eu countries:
'Is this about specific countries?
This measure is non-discriminatory and applies equally regardless of the country of origin of the goods or the logistics operator involved.
The goal is to address the pressure customs authorities are under due to large and increasing volumes of low-value imports, and to support Member States in protecting the EU Single Market and EU consumers from unfair practices and non-compliant products.
The same rules apply to all operators and all countries.'
petyalamqta
·3 months agoI'm happy that UK is not in EU
watchfan700uk
·3 months agoThe solution is for ebay to collect the charge via an additional charge to ebay seller fees and for sellers to increase prices to take into account the extra cost or absorb it themselves.
sml192
·3 months ago · EditedNo, that definitely isn't the solution. It wouldn't even be possible for it to work that way.
The correct solution would be for eBay, as the IOSS holder, to collect the charge from the customer, alongside the VAT, which is wat the official guidelines seem to suggest should happen:
'Who is responsible for paying the duty?
The declarant of the good, i.e. seller or importer of the good (IOSS holder, special arrangements user, or their indirect representative, indirect representative of the importer).
bzmotman
·3 months agoBut if you sell multiple items of the same product line with the same Country of Origin to a buyer you can group them on your CN23. So instead of 5 x €3 it would be 1 x €3.
Surely the solution is for Ebay to introduce a separate line after postage for this EU fee. It would only show to EU based buyers. Then its clear to the buyer why the total price is higher and its also possible for us to refund whenever we group.
At the moment Royal Mail are unable to offer postage including the EU fee to 8 EU countries so the EU fee will be collected on arrival. Adding onto IOSS or sellers fee will mean buyers in those countries are asked to pay twice. @watchfan700uk
4_bathrooms
·3 months ago · EditedThat is not an insurmountable problem for eBay. Each line on the CN22/CN23 relates to items with the same commodity code/tariff number so multiples of the same item or items added to the buyer's basket from the same eBay category would only attract a single €3 duty fee. eBay already has a country of origin field so they just need to make that a mandatory field for the EU as they do for the USA.
Again this is not insurmountable. If the buyer's registered/delivery address is in Bulgaria, Greece, Latvia, Lithuania, Croatia, Czechia, Hungary, Poland, Romania or Slovenia - the 10 countries where IOSS with PDDP will not be available tomorrow - eBay simply wouldn't charge the duty as it would be charged to the recipient as a DDU consignment.
bzmotman
·3 months agoI agree that its technically feasible and indeed is a solution preferable to my own as it would ensure that all sales to the EU pay the fee [no option to refund]. However if Ebay were intending to implement such a solution surely they would have either have done it for today or at least announced that it was on the horizon.
My gut feeling is that they won't spend the money on it when they can easily say "just use GSP" which for them means no extra costs & more income.
By the way a RM chart I've seen suggests that as from today IOSS is not available to Greece & Romania making DDU the only option hence my quote of 8 EU countries.
4_bathrooms
·3 months agoMy gut feeling is eBay didn't realise the EU are expecting them (as the IOSS holder) to charge the duty. interestingly Amazon have taken a similar approach - they charge the duty for FBA sellers but have told FBM sellers to use a DDP service.
Going by the IOSS column in the "Royal Mail Delivery Term availability" section in this Royal Mail guidance (PDF Flie) there are 10 countries that either state "Not available on 1-July" or "IOSS with DDU for duty". Given the countries concerned it seems likely they haven't been able to update their customs processes in time but eventually will do so.
bzmotman
·3 months agoThat's the chart I'm referring to. If you go to the IOSS section of both Royal Mail & Parcelforce Delivery Term Availability and look at Greece & Romania both say "Not available on 1 July". Same applies to PDDP, only DDU plus DTP & IOSS with DTP are available.
I tried a test entry on my Click & Drop account linked to my RM OBA account and I was unable to get the PDDP symbol when I did "Tax paid by IOSS, duties & fees charged to OBA". So either it wasn't working today or perhaps it only works with orders swept through from Ebay.
12345mag79
·3 months agoI was wondering whether, if the product is 100% of UK origin, the €3 charge would not apply under the TCA?
sml192
·3 months agoIt applies regardless of the country of origin:
'Is this about specific countries?
This measure is non-discriminatory and applies equally regardless of the country of origin of the goods or the logistics operator involved.
The goal is to address the pressure customs authorities are under due to large and increasing volumes of low-value imports, and to support Member States in protecting the EU Single Market and EU consumers from unfair practices and non-compliant products.
The same rules apply to all operators and all countries.
12345mag79
·3 months agoThank you
padanpcparts
·3 months agoGlobal Shipping is looking to be a much better service these days than when it was released. I've switched ALL my international post over because trying to deal with the changing landscape the last few years has been super stressful.
petyalamqta
·3 months agoI do not think so..it is a overcharged service....and because it is very expensive almost none of the buyers use it...something that it can be send for £12 pound even with the £3 fee will cost to tne buyer at least £25 with GSP...
kat@ebay
Hi All,
Please see eBay's recent announcement on this change.
https://community.ebay.co.uk/forum/announcements-28/topic/new-eu-customs-duty-now-in-effect-for-low-value-imports-49438/
Thank you,
Kat
rainbowtrax
·3 months ago@kat@ebay I want to remove the EU countries from my postage rate tables and switch to Global Shipping for those destinations but there is now a tech error with editing rate tables. I reported this last week but no sign of a fix yet. All countries in each region on the rate tables are greyed out so that you can't deselect them to remove countries. Please could you check on when this is going to be fixed as I've now had to completely block the EU until it's sorted.
kat@ebay
Hi @rainbowtrax ,
Thank you for your reply.
I don't see a ticket open with tech for this. Have you a reference number for when you spoke/chatted with customer support? Can you create a separate thread for it with screenshot examples?
Thank you,
Kat
4_bathrooms
·3 months agoHi Kat,
That announcement raises more questions than it answers. I assume eBay will still be collecting the domestic EU VAT on applicable orders as they have been obliged to do for the last 5 years. If a seller then purchases postage via Royal Mail's website or from a Post Office counter the seller will be asked if the item was sold via an online marketplace and if so which one; eBay's IOSS number will then be recorded against the consignment. Where RM account customers using eBay integration are concerned eBay's IOSS number will automatically be recorded against the consignment.
It's pretty clear from the EU Commission's guidance that the IOSS holder (i.e. eBay) is expected to assume responsibility for charging and remitting the new temporary duty. Royal Mail's guidance suggests the IOSS holder will be billed for the duty so to me at least it seems as though eBay will be footing the duty bill if they're not collecting it from the buyer at the point of purchase.
petyalamqta
·3 months agoYes VAT is sill paid...and i think you'll have VAT on that £3 fee also....
and the duty is not temporary....they say it is , but it is not
sml192
·3 months agoThe flat €3 charge is a temporary measure until July 2028 when the €150 threshold is due to be fully abolished and normal customs duties will then apply to items of any value.
petyalamqta
·3 months agono you'll not be billed £3...eBay anounced that, that right now they are not collecting that fee nor from the buyer nor from the seller...When you buy Royal Mail label you have to be sure that you select that buyer will pay the £3 fee
watchfan700uk
·3 months agoWhen you buy Royal Mail label you have to be sure that you select that buyer will pay the £3 fee
I sent some eu bound orders via c and d yesterday and selected that buyer pays any outstanding fees. 3 euro is not too big a deal but I have no idea how this is going to impact my business - will there be a handling charge?
sml192
·3 months ago · EditedYes, there is a Royal Mail handling charge of £1 when sending to EU countries using PDDP (except Ireland which is 50p).
sml192
·3 months ago · EditedDDU (delivery unpaid) can only be used (at present) in conjunction with IOSS when sending to Bulgaria, Latvia, Lithuania, Croatia, Czechia, Hungary, Poland, and Slovenia. For all other EU countries (except Greece and Romania) you will need to use PDDP (delivery paid upfront).
watchfan700uk
·3 months agoyes but do RM via c and d give the opportunity to pay the 3 euro fee plus handling charge if you select DDP?
I presume they do not make you pay the vat on ebay orders (vat that has already been paid by the buyer via ebay)
sml192
·3 months agoYes, DDP is available in conjunction with IOSS when using Click & Drop. From the Click & Drop guidance:
'You can specify a delivery term when importing orders via spreadsheet or API if you wish to. If you are processing orders via the UI, we will determine this from the payment option you choose.
Pay all taxes, duties & fees via Click & Drop/OBA account = PDDP/DDP
Recipient pays all duties, taxes and fees = DDU_DAP
Taxes prepaid via IOSS, duties and fees paid via Click & Drop/OBA account = IOSS_DDP
Taxes paid via IOSS, duties and fees paid by recipient = IOSS_DDU
Taxes, duties and fees prepaid via IOSS (incl. marketplaces or elsewhere) = IOSS_INC_DUTIES'
Eventually I would expect the duties to be collected and prepaid via the IOSS scheme, as per the bottom option mentioned there, but it would appear, based on the following paragraph, that that is still to be implemented:
'Please note that it is not currently possible to import much of this data directly from eCommerce marketplaces or webstores, and so the data must be added to orders after they have been imported into Click & Drop.'
4_bathrooms
·3 months agoIf you're sending using GSP then eBay will handle the duty as the GSP price shown to the buyer includes all taxes and duties.
If you're not using GSP then the buyer's domestic postal operator/carrier will likely charge the recipient on import. IOSS is purely for VAT and not does not cover import duty - which is a separate charge - so I don't see how eBay can accommodate this temporary duty outside of GSP.
tribetrade
OP3 months agoThanks. I understand but currently I pay £3 to send a small parcel to France by untracked business priority. The only DDP SERVICES are tracked so I’d have to charge £8 + 3€. I don’t use the GSP SERVICE as ebay dont give any idea of cost. I assume it’s about £30 . My items cost £3-£4. It will kill my business.
sml192
·3 months agoAs the new charge only currently applies to items sent under the IOSS scheme (as per the press release from the EU council) one would assume that it will be collected from the customer by eBay along with the VAT. There would apoear to be no point in limiting it to only items sent under the IOSS scheme otherwise. However, there have not been any announcements from eBay to this effect yet.
sml192
·3 months ago · EditedActually, having now read the official guidance it would appear that the charge does now apply to all items and not just those sent under the IOSS VAT scheme as I previously stated:
'What goods are affected?
All goods in consignments up to €150 sold in distance sales (e.g. e-commerce to consumers), regardless of VAT scheme (IOSS, Special Arrangements, or standard VAT).
Excluding goods benefiting from preferential trade agreements or Customs Union measures, as long as the VAT has not been collected using IOSS and they are declared in H1.'
The guidance also makes it clear that in most cases the charge is to be paid by the declarant, i.e. the seller or importer (IOSS holder, etc) and not the consumer (customer):
'Who is responsible for paying the duty?
The declarant of the good, i.e. seller or importer of the good (IOSS holder, special arrangements user, or their indirect representative, indirect representative of the importer).
Only in very residual cases: the consumer (for Member States that offer a free web-based declaration system for citizens).'
4_bathrooms
·3 months agoWell spotted; I missed that even though I read the guidance at least three times! I think it must be the heat...
Anyway, for the benefit of anyone else reading this thread this means that eBay - who will be making the IOSS declaration - will be charging and remitting the €3 duty/duties along with the applicable domestic EU VAT.
sml192
·3 months ago · EditedJust noticed that there is an announcement regarding the new charge on the US site (posted 2 days ago). However, it appears to completely comtradict the official guidance given by the EU council with eBay effectively denying all responsibility (except for items sent via the EIS program).
4_bathrooms
·3 months agoThat's bizarre. Where IOSS and postal carriers are concerned the declaration to IOSS is recorded on the postage label, not the customs label. As eBay's IOSS declaration should be used for the VAT and duty declarations - in accordance with the EU Commission's guidance - this statement on eBay.com makes little sense:
"Due to these changes in EU customs requirements, USPS label purchases on eBay are temporarily unavailable for shipment to the EU. Sellers should purchase their shipping label directly from their carrier to complete their shipment."
sml192
·3 months agoThere is finally an announcement on the UK site.
nookys.nuts
·3 months agoI think the announcement does not say that Ebay will be collecting the "3 euro charge per item" for us? So it is down to us sellers to sort out ourselves?! Typical ebay! Will ebay let us put this fee into the postage price price charged?
4_bathrooms
·3 months agoThe UK announcement simply mirrors the US announcement; i.e. IOSS postal labels will be temporarily unavailable via eBay.
It's pretty clear the EU Commission is expecting B2C items to be sent DDP with the IOSS holder (i.e. eBay) expected to pay the duty. eBay's announcement raises more questions than it answers.
bzmotman
·3 months agoFor the benefit of anyone reading this that is incorrect unless the seller is using GSP.
On another thread on this subject kat@ebay has told me "eBay are not collecting the fee for seller-managed shipping, shipping providers may collect duties during the import process. For eBay-managed shipping programs such as GSP, applicable import duties and fees are handled as part of the managed shipping experience."
I agree that all the guidance/advice I had read suggested the IOSS declarer could collect it but the RM are offering IOSS + PDDP for some countries & IOSS + DDU for others.
HTH