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    <title>Question Item lost nightmare please help in Member To Member Support DO NOT DELETE</title>
    <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/Member-To-Member-Support-DO-NOT/Item-lost-nightmare-please-help/qaq-p/6965085</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;Hi&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I sold an item on fifth of April via eBay GSP to a man in Germany.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;He paid the winning price of the item, the requested insured shipping costs to eBay GSP &amp;nbsp;hub &amp;nbsp;and import tax or customs duty of about £60.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;eBay who no longer deal with PayPal managed the payment and sent me money less their fees a few days later.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;I thought Hermes would be able to deliver a package to the GSP hub without losing it sadly I was mistaken.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;The buyer contacted me to say they have not received the parcel and I instructed them to open an eBay dispute in the resolution centre.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I entered into discussions with eBay and Hermes customer support and the conclusion is that it never left the UK and was lost &amp;nbsp;by Hermes on the way to the hub.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;Eventually Hermes settled the full cost of the claim, in effect the final value of the item and the UK postage they had charged me.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; I went into eBay to try and refund my buyer and found I was unable to do so as there was a dispute open. One hour of phone calls later and a lot of being put on hold I discovered that &amp;nbsp;instead of opening an eBay dispute he had opened a dispute with PayPal in Germany.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I cannot see the PayPal dispute in my PayPal account because my side of the transaction was not conducted by PayPal but done as an eBay managed payment.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;So his actions have created the perfect storm.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I cannot refund the buyer by eBay as there is a dispute open.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I cannot refund the buyer by PayPal as I have no record of the dispute despite talking to PayPal.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;The advice from PayPal is to get the buyer to close the dispute so that I can refund him via eBay &amp;nbsp;which will give me a credit on final value fees and selling fees.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;The buyer will not close the dispute as he says that is his guarantee and wants me to send a PayPal transfer for the full amount before he will close the dispute.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;As I see this I will be &amp;nbsp;refunding a buyer outside of the system, unable to claim back my seller fees and also having to pay about £60 of import tax on an item that was never imported in fact it never left the UK.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Do I just have to suck this up or is there something I can do? I can’t make PayPal and eBay Help work this out.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks in advance&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2021 15:27:18 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>geoffshultz</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2021-05-19T15:27:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Item lost nightmare please help</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/Member-To-Member-Support-DO-NOT/Item-lost-nightmare-please-help/qaq-p/6965085</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;Hi&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I sold an item on fifth of April via eBay GSP to a man in Germany.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;He paid the winning price of the item, the requested insured shipping costs to eBay GSP &amp;nbsp;hub &amp;nbsp;and import tax or customs duty of about £60.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;eBay who no longer deal with PayPal managed the payment and sent me money less their fees a few days later.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;I thought Hermes would be able to deliver a package to the GSP hub without losing it sadly I was mistaken.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;The buyer contacted me to say they have not received the parcel and I instructed them to open an eBay dispute in the resolution centre.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I entered into discussions with eBay and Hermes customer support and the conclusion is that it never left the UK and was lost &amp;nbsp;by Hermes on the way to the hub.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;Eventually Hermes settled the full cost of the claim, in effect the final value of the item and the UK postage they had charged me.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; I went into eBay to try and refund my buyer and found I was unable to do so as there was a dispute open. One hour of phone calls later and a lot of being put on hold I discovered that &amp;nbsp;instead of opening an eBay dispute he had opened a dispute with PayPal in Germany.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I cannot see the PayPal dispute in my PayPal account because my side of the transaction was not conducted by PayPal but done as an eBay managed payment.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;So his actions have created the perfect storm.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I cannot refund the buyer by eBay as there is a dispute open.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I cannot refund the buyer by PayPal as I have no record of the dispute despite talking to PayPal.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;The advice from PayPal is to get the buyer to close the dispute so that I can refund him via eBay &amp;nbsp;which will give me a credit on final value fees and selling fees.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;The buyer will not close the dispute as he says that is his guarantee and wants me to send a PayPal transfer for the full amount before he will close the dispute.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;As I see this I will be &amp;nbsp;refunding a buyer outside of the system, unable to claim back my seller fees and also having to pay about £60 of import tax on an item that was never imported in fact it never left the UK.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Do I just have to suck this up or is there something I can do? I can’t make PayPal and eBay Help work this out.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks in advance&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2021 15:27:18 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/Member-To-Member-Support-DO-NOT/Item-lost-nightmare-please-help/qaq-p/6965085</guid>
      <dc:creator>geoffshultz</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-05-19T15:27:18Z</dc:date>
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